dagblog - Comments for "The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities " http://dagblog.com/link/silence-american-hawks-about-kiev-s-atrocities-18691 Comments for "The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities " en I gracefully accept your http://dagblog.com/comment/197201#comment-197201 <a id="comment-197201"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197198#comment-197198">Yanukovych?s forces were</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> I gracefully accept your correction about the corridors. However, Cohen wasn't only writing about the current government; he also wrote about the downfall of Yankukovych.  The way it was reported, Yankukovych started the violence; maybe there are contrary reports somewhere, but I'll have to see them.</p> <p>  My complaint about Cohen denouncing anti-Semitism amid the new governing coalition while ignoring it among the Russian speakers(in this specific article, anyway) stands. I don't agree that the conqueror of Crimea has shown great restraint.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Jul 2014 19:48:42 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 197201 at http://dagblog.com Yanukovych?s forces were http://dagblog.com/comment/197198#comment-197198 <a id="comment-197198"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197189#comment-197189">Cohen&#039;s piece is very</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yanukovych’s forces were beyond doubt guilty of less than perfect handling of the situation they faced but there is also no doubt among those paying attention that the forces that were, at that point in time, the rebels, instigated much violence with violence of their own and with inflammatory rhetoric, much of it being Anti-Semitic. Many people and many governments quietly or secretly believe in Fascistic policies but it is the open embrace of such policies, the advocacy of acting upon Fascistic policies actually described as such, which actually defines a government as being Fascist. Ukraine’s new government, or at least some very influential voices within it, fit that description to a tee.<br /><br />      A quick skim of Google  indicates that Russia requested humanitarian corridors on June 2. On June 10, Ukraine announced the creation of the corridors and the entire first page of google links to that announcement. By June 12, the next chronological date for which  I found a reference, on page two, Russia is demanding that the corridors be, in fact, created. The next mention is on July 3 where a link is to the [alleged] fact that the corridors never were created. There is apparently not much about humanitarian corridors for Cohen to waste time talking about.<br /><br /> Cohen writes about the actions of the current government and your complaints about the article refer to the previous government and to Putin who has, in my opinion and that of many other observers, acted with restraint. I do not doubt for a moment that he will try to play the situation to his and Russia’s benefit as he sees it and that would doubtless include some or a lot of ‘meddling’ and he might even lie about how much and what kind of aid. That would not be the breaking of new ground if done by any government playing any part in that ongoing event.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:12:54 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 197198 at http://dagblog.com Cohen's piece is very http://dagblog.com/comment/197189#comment-197189 <a id="comment-197189"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/silence-american-hawks-about-kiev-s-atrocities-18691">The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>  Cohen's piece is very tendentious. The start of the violence in Eastern Ukraine may not have been solely the doing of the government.</p> <p>  <a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26248275">http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-26248275</a></p> <p>  No mention of Yanukovych's violence against peaceful protesters, no mention of the "humanitarian corridors" set up by the government, mention of anti-Semitism among Svoboda, but not among the separatists. And Putin, the guy who invaded Crimea and (probably)sent troops into Eastern Ukraine, praised for his "restraint".</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:49:33 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 197189 at http://dagblog.com A more concise version of the http://dagblog.com/comment/197186#comment-197186 <a id="comment-197186"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/silence-american-hawks-about-kiev-s-atrocities-18691">The Silence of American Hawks About Kiev’s Atrocities </a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>A more concise version of the same story is here:</p> <p><a href="http://consortiumnews.com/">http://consortiumnews.com/</a></p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:39:17 +0000 A Guy Called LULU comment 197186 at http://dagblog.com