dagblog - Comments for "A Gaza Breviary"

Very well said.

barefooted — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 04:12:56 +0000

Very well said.

The trap that encompasses

rmrd0000 — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 02:44:47 +0000

In reply to This is the 21st century, not

The trap that encompasses Palestinians in Gaza is in place in 2014 prior to the rockets Hamas is firing.

The Palestinians had no voice in the creation of Israel. They feel that their land was stolen. Jews in Israel escaped slaughter in Europe, Israel is their refuge. Palestinians feel trapped in Gaza. Jews probably watch the anti-Semitism in Europe and are glad that Israel exists. Neither party sees a reason to compromise.

Palestinians see no support from the rest of the world. Israelis see no support from the rest of the world. This violence cycle will repeat.

This is the 21st century, not

NCD — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 02:23:23 +0000

In reply to Hamas had largely halted the

This is the 21st century, not the 16th. Muslims and Muslim nations in particular need to turn down the violence and the Jihad and turn up respect and compassion for each other, and also people of other faiths.

As I have said before, GW Bush and the neocons lit the cigar that landed in the powder magazine that set this whole thing in motion, in their 'shock and awe' aggression and failed occupation of Iraq, A nation now in chaos and replete with terrorists and lawlessness.

I think I can stand on what I

Aaron Carine — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 02:16:59 +0000

In reply to The double standard in Muslim

I think I can stand on what I said in reply.

The double standard in Muslim

NCD — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 02:14:51 +0000

In reply to These slaughter is vastly

The double standard in Muslim reactions to Muslim on Muslim violence and the Gaza conflict cannot be denied.

So Israel is supposed to patiently wait for Hamas to kill Israeli's, and then act, 'proportionally'?

I have two words for you Aaron, Never Again.

A perspective on how Hamas

rmrd0000 — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 01:30:50 +0000

In reply to Hamas had largely halted the

A perspective on how Hamas views the situation

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v36/n16/nathan-thrall/hamass-chances

The Massachusetts versus Rhode Island dispute

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/god-government-and-roger-williams-...

Hamas had largely halted the

rmrd0000 — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 01:26:21 +0000

In reply to Sad how the Muslims can get

Hamas had largely halted the rocket firings. Gaza was blocked off from the smuggling trade that supplied the economy after the Muslim Brotherhood was ousted from Egypt. The Israelis limited access for Gaza citizens at the Israeli checkpoints. The smuggled gods could be taxed and support the Gaza economy. Gaza was trapped. Hamas felt there was nothing to lose by attacking Israel, in fact, part of the resolution may be freer access for those in Gaza to gain access through Israel.

The bottom line is if the Palestinians are trapped between Israel and Egypt, and the United States, Turkey, and Europe are not providing aid, what incentive do they have for good behavior.

Regarding Muslim on Muslim religious disputes, this is a direct result of how European powers divided the countries. There are religious differences. This is not unheard of. Go back and read how the Massachusetts colony led by John Winthrop declared war on the area we call Rhode Island that was led by Roger Williams. Winthrop envisioned his colony as a religious city on a hill. Williams was adamant about separation of church and state because he felt the state would corrupt religion.

These slaughter is vastly

Aaron Carine — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 00:52:46 +0000

In reply to Sad how the Muslims can get

This slaughter is vastly worse than the terrorist aggression. The rocket attacks hadn't killed anyone since 2012. Probably a thousand Palestinian noncombatants have been killed, including over two hundred children.

ISIS was a big story for a time, and doubtless will be again, but one of the rules of journalism is that the story has to change. Anyway, the refrain of "what about what's happening in(fill in the blank)" isn't much good as a defense.

Sad how the Muslims can get

NCD — Mon, 04 Aug 2014 00:41:41 +0000

In reply to Netanyahu is free to tell

Sad how many Muslims and others can get so irate over Palestinians killed in the crossfire between the terrorists who run Gaza and Israel, which Hamas is pledged to destroy. Hamas could, of course, end this at any time if they stopped firing missiles across the border.

There are hardly any demonstrations against extremist Muslim groups, or governments, kidnapping, bombing, beheading, terrorizing, killing or murdering fellow Muslims by the hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands. It's as if that's just business as usual.

If the borders were opened, Hamas would just bring in more sophisticated missiles and weapons in preparation for the next Jihad. These guys don't want peace any more than ISIS, and they will never go into the flower export business. As Muslims, and many in the world, inveigh against the inevitable loss of non-combatants as Israel defends itself against terrorist aggression, you have Muslim on Muslim violence like this from Iraq:

... They destroyed a Shiite shrine, executed resisters, overran local security forces and hoisted the black flag of the Islamic State...the militants demanded that the city’s residents swear allegiance to ISIS or be killed....

The United Nations representative in Baghdad, Nickolay Mladenov, issued a statement on Sunday, citing reports he had that as many as 200,000 civilians, mostly from the minority Yazidi community, had fled the fighting.

Netanyahu is free to tell

rmrd0000 — Sun, 03 Aug 2014 23:26:56 +0000

In reply to Netanyahu's protestations

Netanyahu is free to tell Kerry to butt out. He is free to tell Obama not to second guess him. He is free to go without having the United States fund the slaughter. This has cost Israel billions and Americans are being asked to defray the costs.

While Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt's governments are not openly condemning Israel, their populations are upset. At the end of the day the Muslim governments will be dislike even more by their citizens and the United States will be seen as even more of an enemy.

Both Israel and Egypt need to lift the access to goods that impede the economy in Gaza.