dagblog - Comments for "Charles Koch Schools Us on How to Keep His Family the Second Richest In The Country" http://dagblog.com/politics/charles-koch-schools-us-how-keep-his-family-second-richest-country-18777 Comments for "Charles Koch Schools Us on How to Keep His Family the Second Richest In The Country" en USA Today is a retailer of http://dagblog.com/comment/197931#comment-197931 <a id="comment-197931"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197924#comment-197924">Momoe, I think what makes him</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>USA Today is a retailer of news. <span style="line-height:1.6">The fastest growing paper in the  country and the largest now in </span><span style="line-height:1.6">the </span><span style="line-height:1.6">state</span><span style="line-height:1.6"> of Florida is a non profit, Tampa Bay Times, and the conservatives complain that it is too liberal.  People are starved for real news and Charles Koch is not real news. I started buying when I could the paper because I wanted to support the non profit part.  I have found I like the product they are producing.  It is one of my daily go to places on the internet. </span></p> <p>A lot of people have no idea who Koch is and I am sure they still don't know who he is even after this OpEd.  It just turns people off who do know about him.  The people who do know about him are big consumers of news. </p> <p>I have the power to not click on USA Today or buy it. Clicks and dollars are where it is at.<span style="line-height:1.6"> Comments are just a side show. </span></p> <p>Most of us are out here googling about the bombing in the middle east.  I would not have read the piece had you not pointed it out. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Aug 2014 17:32:11 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 197931 at http://dagblog.com Momoe, I think what makes him http://dagblog.com/comment/197924#comment-197924 <a id="comment-197924"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197923#comment-197923">He is not a inspirational</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Momoe, I think what makes him and his kind so dangerous is that they know which words to use to reach the people who will react without thinking.  They've already set their memes in stone and all they have to do is keep repeating them:  Obamacare is bad, global warming isn't real, poor people are lazy, unions are bad, social programs are socialism, public schools are cesspools, etc.</p> <p>Charles Koch isn't trying to reach us, he's trying to gain legitimacy by pretending to be concerned for ordinary people.  Those of us who know he's full of shit will never have a chance to debate him on his level.  Money is God in this country and he knows he's so far above us whatever we have to say is meaningless.</p> <p>If you scroll down to the comments for his op-ed you'll see that his supporters are right out there on the attack.  The Right Wing has power.  We don't.  We either have to live with it or we have to do something about it.  The question is, what can we do?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:25:04 +0000 Ramona comment 197924 at http://dagblog.com He is not a inspirational http://dagblog.com/comment/197923#comment-197923 <a id="comment-197923"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/charles-koch-schools-us-how-keep-his-family-second-richest-country-18777">Charles Koch Schools Us on How to Keep His Family the Second Richest In The Country</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>He is not a inspirational writer of OpEd articles.  It was rather flat with far right talking points with no solutions and very out of touch with society.  Without his zillion dollars to buy him love and marketing he really isn't much of a deep thinker. It is really a dumb thing to write that ACA is causing increase in part time jobs.  It is an insult to those who just received access to health care through ACA that work part time jobs.  The part time job came first with out ACA.</p> <p>He fails to give real facts and solutions.  He blames the government and cronyism when he is the biggest crony of all.<span style="line-height:1.6"> </span></p> <p><span style="line-height:1.6">He writes like the trust fund baby that he really is.  He needs to get out of our way.</span></p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:04:15 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 197923 at http://dagblog.com Thanks, rmrd.  That does http://dagblog.com/comment/197920#comment-197920 <a id="comment-197920"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197917#comment-197917">Koch&#039;s view of King&#039;s speech</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Thanks, rmrd.  That does change the whole tone, doesn't it? </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 08 Aug 2014 02:51:38 +0000 Ramona comment 197920 at http://dagblog.com Koch's view of King's speech http://dagblog.com/comment/197917#comment-197917 <a id="comment-197917"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/charles-koch-schools-us-how-keep-his-family-second-richest-country-18777">Charles Koch Schools Us on How to Keep His Family the Second Richest In The Country</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Koch's view of King's speech is limited/limiting</p> <p>Here is the beauty of King's speech to a group of high school students in its entirety. The speech is about being the best that you can be. King notes that many doors would be opening for these students. Doors that were not available to their parents. The speech is about attaining excellence in one's work and not being made to feel ashamed by one's job. Placing the focus on the street sweeper portion misses the context of the  speech. The message is about new opportunities.</p> <p><a href="http://seattletimes.com/special/mlk/king/words/blueprint.html">http://seattletimes.com/special/mlk/king/words/blueprint.html</a></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 22:08:17 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 197917 at http://dagblog.com Hi Richard, I remember that http://dagblog.com/comment/197916#comment-197916 <a id="comment-197916"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197912#comment-197912">I listened to this speech by</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Hi Richard, I remember that MLK said it, too, and I remember it as you do--as a tribute to every worker, no matter their station.  I think that's what made me so mad about Koch usurping it and making it into something that might vindicate his phony, self-serving appeal to people his own actions have very nearly destroyed.  I hope they'll catch on soon.  If they don't, they'll take all of us down with them.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:59:00 +0000 Ramona comment 197916 at http://dagblog.com Oh, yes!  Multitudes!  They http://dagblog.com/comment/197914#comment-197914 <a id="comment-197914"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197911#comment-197911">Are there really Republicans</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Oh, yes!  Multitudes!  They're NRA members and libertarians and "No Tax" folks.  They're also pro-life and/or fundamentalists.  They hate unions and do-gooders and they studiously ignore the connections when they're accepting Medicaid or unemployment benefits or food stamps.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 21:11:49 +0000 Ramona comment 197914 at http://dagblog.com I listened to this speech by http://dagblog.com/comment/197912#comment-197912 <a id="comment-197912"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/197908#comment-197908">I agree with Dr. Martin</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I listened to this speech by MLK.</p> <p>To me it was a celebration of the ordinary man.</p> <p>The problem is that an aristocrat can take these words to heart; hoping that the minimum wagers will take pride in cleaning up the aristocrat's streets and sewage systems and the other various and sundry jobs that salute the aristocrat.</p> <p>It is a clever argument when you think about it.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:28:48 +0000 Richard Day comment 197912 at http://dagblog.com Are there really Republicans http://dagblog.com/comment/197911#comment-197911 <a id="comment-197911"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/charles-koch-schools-us-how-keep-his-family-second-richest-country-18777">Charles Koch Schools Us on How to Keep His Family the Second Richest In The Country</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Are there really Republicans who are on food stamps and/or unemployment? Cuz they're always complaining about people who are on food stamps or unemployment.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 20:12:07 +0000 Anonymous comment 197911 at http://dagblog.com I agree with Dr. Martin http://dagblog.com/comment/197908#comment-197908 <a id="comment-197908"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/politics/charles-koch-schools-us-how-keep-his-family-second-richest-country-18777">Charles Koch Schools Us on How to Keep His Family the Second Richest In The Country</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>I agree with Dr. Martin Luther King. There are no dead-end jobs. Every job deserves our best. 'If a man is called to be a street sweeper," <a href="http://www.thekingcenter.org/blog/mlk-quote-week-all-labor-uplifts-humanity-has-dignity-and-importance-and-should-be-undertaken" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(205, 0, 33); outline: none; text-decoration: none; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 17px;">King said</a>, ' he should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, 'Here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well.'"</p> </blockquote> <p>That King ever said this and that it is now being repeated by the Kochs is why Nietzsche struggled so mightily to warn us against this kind of thinking. The truth is that nobody will ever celebrate the great street sweeper, though they may celebrate the man or woman who sweeps the streets for many other reasons.  There are small jobs, just no small people.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:03:06 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 197908 at http://dagblog.com