dagblog - Comments for "Fareed Zakaria: The fantasy of Middle Eastern moderates" http://dagblog.com/link/fareed-zakaria-fantasy-middle-eastern-moderates-18796 Comments for "Fareed Zakaria: The fantasy of Middle Eastern moderates" en Moderate is as moderate does? http://dagblog.com/comment/198163#comment-198163 <a id="comment-198163"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/198157#comment-198157">I take Zakaria&#039;s point that</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Moderate is as moderate does?</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:22:32 +0000 Bruce Levine comment 198163 at http://dagblog.com Moderate secular Muslim http://dagblog.com/comment/198160#comment-198160 <a id="comment-198160"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/198159#comment-198159">I resemble that remark.</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Moderate secular Muslim leaders resemble this:<br />  </p> <p class="rtecenter"><img alt="" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-IaDAbRerkPk/Ttcs8gjHvKI/AAAAAAAAPdo/UQm6FwV8Jic/s1600/hens_teeth-590x409.jpg" style="height:150px; width:210px" /></p> <p>About as common as hen's teeth.</p> <p>Lots of Iraqi's today probably wish we still 'supported' Saddam.</p> <p>Like before GW Bush gave them<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/onpolitics/transcripts/bushtext_012803.html"> God's Gift of Freedom</a>.</p> <p><a href="http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/obamas-ambush-of-israel/">Times of Israel </a>on Obama's 'no victors, no vanquished'</p> <blockquote> <p>The problem is, you give up on the moral high ground when you say “no victor and no vanquished.” You give up on the idea of good and evil. And you might even be setting the stage for WWIII.</p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Sat, 16 Aug 2014 01:07:20 +0000 NCD comment 198160 at http://dagblog.com I resemble that remark. http://dagblog.com/comment/198159#comment-198159 <a id="comment-198159"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/198158#comment-198158">(No subject)</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I resemble that remark.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:20:27 +0000 moat comment 198159 at http://dagblog.com (No subject) http://dagblog.com/comment/198158#comment-198158 <a id="comment-198158"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/198157#comment-198157">I take Zakaria&#039;s point that</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><img alt="Very small turtle" src="http://www.fragmentsfromfloyd.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/turtle.jpg" style="height:297px; width:404px" /></p> <p>Edit to add: I've never heard the expression "am I a very small turtle?" before, but I love the image it conjures up of a small turtle tapping at his keyboard.</p> </div></div></div> Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:12:32 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 198158 at http://dagblog.com I take Zakaria's point that http://dagblog.com/comment/198157#comment-198157 <a id="comment-198157"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/fareed-zakaria-fantasy-middle-eastern-moderates-18796">Fareed Zakaria: The fantasy of Middle Eastern moderates</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I take Zakaria's point that civil wars are a tough time for anyone who just wants to get along. But it is hard to read a sentence like: "For decades, U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East has been to support “moderates” and not fall into a swoon.</p> <p>Was the Shah a moderate? Were the Mujahadeen who carried our weapons in Afghanistan moderates? Was Saddam Hussein a "moderate"? Are our allies and close financial partners, Saudi Arabia, to be called moderate when they have a regular summer program where the True Believers of the Wahhabi ideology are exported like cheap wine to other countries so they don't blow their own up? Is Israel a "moderate" country? Was Pinochet a "moderate"? Am I a very small turtle?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:52:19 +0000 moat comment 198157 at http://dagblog.com