dagblog - Comments for "Isis surges towards the borders of Turkey as west mulls options"

Peter on the hegemony of the

NCD — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:50:48 +0000

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Peter on the hegemony of the Caliphate again. Turkey is a secular Islamic country.

Turks are not Arabs. Arabs are a tiny minority in Turkey. Turks once ruled the Arabs during the Ottoman Empire.

Turkey has a military manpower pool of 40 million, bigger than the entire population of Syria or Iraq. It's physically twice as big as Iraq and nearly twice as big as Syria.

The Turk government and population is not going to stand to be overrun by Arab nutcases.

A few tens of thousands ISIS guys are not going to try to take over Turkey. Ever.

As I said in my post on war fever at NPR, the War Party in the US is more than ready to go to war again.....with ISIS in the former geo-politcal entity that used to be Iraq that we invaded and destabilized, and in Syria.

NATO will respond to the

Beetlejuice — Tue, 26 Aug 2014 00:00:20 +0000

In reply to The uprising in Turkey will

NATO will respond to the government they recognize ... so if they call out for help, it will come.

NATO trumps the UN

Beetlejuice — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 23:59:08 +0000

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NATO trumps the UN

I'm glad that you are not

Peter — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:14:38 +0000

In reply to Peter the stalking horse!

I'm glad that you are not shooting, yet, Bruce. I am not stalking for anyone except the truth and stating the facts, as I see them.

Peter the stalking horse!

Bruce Levine — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:25:44 +0000

In reply to The uprising in Turkey will

Peter the stalking horse! (That's a poke not a shot).

The uprising in Turkey will

Peter — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:59:51 +0000

In reply to while what you say may be

The uprising in Turkey will come from inside the country as much as from an outside threat so NATO would be bombing its own member country if it is involved. This is true for all the countries of the ME including Israel.

The Islamic State is allied with no other country and views all governments in the ME as apostate regimes, to be swept away and replaced by the Caliphate. They may be using Turkey for their agenda but the IS doesn't need to "turn on" a country it already despises.

Do you believe the United

Resistance — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:37:29 +0000

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Do you believe the United Nations will act?

while what you say may be

Beetlejuice — Mon, 25 Aug 2014 15:11:27 +0000

In reply to *****NEWSFLASH********

while what you say may be true, Turkey is an active member of NATO and if ISIS turns on them, Turkey will be screaming for other NATO members to come and protect them.

Every Arab nation plays both sides of a issue ... and NATO is Turkey's trump card.

Abu Omar, a Chechen is the

Peter — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 19:08:24 +0000

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Abu Omar, a Chechen is the leader of Islamic State operations in N. Syria and possibly Iraq also. The Baathists are a bit upset by the declaration of the Caliphate because it contradicts their Nationalist tendencies so the IS took a couple hundred of their leadership hostage in Mosul to temper their rebellion.

The Sufis, who everyone seems to attack, and other status quo Muslim talking heads are in full panic because they see their heads on the chopping block and they are trying every pathetic plea to make the IS go away. The Mufti of Egypt is trying to take their name, Islamic State, away, as if that will stop them.

*NEWSFLASH****

NCD — Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:49:22 +0000

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*****NEWSFLASH********

In the complicated dealings and relationships of the region (a word to describe such devious and duplicitous politics is 'byzantine', derived from the city......in what is now Turkey....) which are beyond the comprehension or understanding of nonbelievers, US Presidents, the Pentagon or Dick Cheney:

Turkey is assisting ISIS and ISIS has no apparent need or desire to invade Turkey, which has available military manpower of over 40 million, and a leader who touts his Islamist credentials. Recall Turkey did not give the US permission to invade Iraq from the north.

So (1) Turkey will never be attacked by ISIS, and (2) even if they were they could control their own territory and would never ask infidels (US) for help.

Since ISIS already has territory exceeding the size of Belgium, and more is falling to them daily, it may be their aims for geographical conquest may go from the Turkish border to somewhere south of Baghdad.

Stopping short of the Royal Kingdom of Princely Playboys of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait (would cause US boots on the ground)... (and the big spending hypocrite sheikhs of the Gulf are useful for cash and/or a place to launder money or buy a posh villa or live in a fancy hotel aka Hamas leaders like Mashaal).