dagblog - Comments for "Obama&#039;s DOJ: OK to Screw Hourly Workers" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obamas-doj-ok-screw-hourly-workers-18962 Comments for "Obama's DOJ: OK to Screw Hourly Workers" en Guess who holds the paper of http://dagblog.com/comment/200080#comment-200080 <a id="comment-200080"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/200079#comment-200079">Sure, under your idea,  the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Guess who holds the paper of our indebtedness and our promissory notes to pay?</p> <p> Could it be Corporations, who will do more than Amazon is?</p> <p><strong><u>Not only will they make you wait to leave the job</u>,</strong> they could make the worker stand outside for awhile, before letting you clock in.  If you don't like it, there are so many looking for work, who'll be glad to take your job. </p> <p>(That could be Amazons solution to staggering shifts) </p> <p>Maybe they wont need you today, come back tomorrow and maybe? </p> <p>Controlling employment and unemployment; controlling the commodity of labor, as any other commodity.  </p> <p>Just wait and you'll see the pain that is coming upon the working class, when the creditors want their 17 trillion dollars in debts paid and watch how Corporations and their industries enslaves us all.</p> <p>Group punishment;</p> <p>Because the foolish voters and politicians sold us all, into slavery......With their spending and revenue restricting policies like NAFTA</p> <p>We are not going to be drowned in the bathtub; we're being drowned in the Red <span style="font-size:8px">sea of</span> Ink</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:08:31 +0000 Resistance comment 200080 at http://dagblog.com Sure, under your idea,  the http://dagblog.com/comment/200079#comment-200079 <a id="comment-200079"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/200070#comment-200070">Lame response. &quot;It would mean</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sure, under your idea,  the company could <strong>make all the workers pay for more security. </strong></p> <p>You think the company has that much of a margin and that they wouldn't look to cover the expenses incurred to cover the losses created by the dishonest employees, </p> <p>Hiring more workers or security enhancements reduces the share of the pie each worker bargains to receive from company profits. </p> <p>Without profit you can't sustain hiring labor. </p> <blockquote> <p><em>group punishment for 'crimes'</em></p> </blockquote> <p>Evidently this escapes your mind?  The group punishment would be instituted, by asking all the workers, <strong>honest and dishonest </strong>to take a cut in wages or benefits, in future negotiations. </p> <p>You have no problem making the honest pay, for the sins of the dishonest?</p> <p>You think asking workers to take out the trash is onerous? </p> <p>If I was a small entrepreneur and was looking for possible candidates for hire, I would question such an attitude. Next the employee might tell me, they don't do windows either?</p> <p>Employer to possible hire: "If you have something better to do, you better go do it". "Don't let me stop you"  </p> <p>Such is the present commodity of labor.</p> <p>Another example of the affects of NAFTA and the decimation of American labor and its effect on our political system.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:38:18 +0000 Resistance comment 200079 at http://dagblog.com Lame response. "It would mean http://dagblog.com/comment/200070#comment-200070 <a id="comment-200070"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/200069#comment-200069"> I know where you are coming</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Lame response. "It would mean pay cuts for a lot of people" was from a labor expert who noted that honest hard working hourly employees could legally be given more tasks after they have clocked out with this ruling. That is a pay cut. If employee theft is a problem hire more security or use more video security measures. This ruling punishes all for the fault of few or none.</p> <p>If you believe in group punishment for 'crimes', real or statistical, you must miss Josef Stalin. Call it "sabotage and wrecking", stop it for good, send the entire shift to the Kolyma. Then you get them to rat on each other and you can fire the security guards.</p> <p>As a small business owner I'd be better off if Amazon hired more security people who might become my customers, also shortening the exit lines for clocked out employees, time they could use to spend their money at a local business.</p> <p>Amazon is screwing Main Street workers to line deep pockets on Wall Street.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:47:46 +0000 NCD comment 200070 at http://dagblog.com  I know where you are coming http://dagblog.com/comment/200069#comment-200069 <a id="comment-200069"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obamas-doj-ok-screw-hourly-workers-18962">Obama&#039;s DOJ: OK to Screw Hourly Workers</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p> I know where you are coming from NCD, but I don't believe <span style="line-height:1.6">the </span><span style="line-height:1.6">employees</span><span style="line-height:1.6"> will win and not because of greedy employers, but instead; because of some greedy employees, who ruin it for all others coworkers and customers alike. </span></p> <blockquote> <p><strong>It would mean pay cuts for a lot of people."</strong></p> </blockquote> <p>When the purchasing power of your wages goes down, because of fraud and theft</p> <p>It is a pay cut</p> <p>Were these employees notified before hire and yet they applied and agreed to employment? </p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=5&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0CDoQFjAE&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cbsnews.com%2Fnews%2Femployee-theft-are-you-blind-to-it%2F&amp;ei=CFBIVMvsMYuiyAS3o4LIDw&amp;usg=AFQjCNHMoJ_9Z2rO2vZ-s0p2HQephrLjUQ" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 153); cursor: pointer;"><strong>Employee Theft</strong>: Are You Blind to It? - CBS News</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=13&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0CFsQFjAM&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailyprogress.com%2Fworkitcville%2Fnews%2Fthe-cost-of-employee-theft%2Farticle_4d196b0e-cf16-11e3-84d0-0017a43b2370.html&amp;ei=CFBIVMvsMYuiyAS3o4LIDw&amp;usg=AFQjCNFf9gaciORqQtKTL8FARZULs15kcQ" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 153); cursor: pointer;">The cost of <strong>employee theft</strong> - Work It, Cville: News</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0CB4QFjAA&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eisneramper.com%2FTrends_and_Developments%2FFraud-Employee-Theft-0214.aspx&amp;ei=CFBIVMvsMYuiyAS3o4LIDw&amp;usg=AFQjCNFa6zceebkepK_ys8h-m_suRI3IWQ" style="color: rgb(102, 0, 153); cursor: pointer;">Fraud <strong>Employee Theft Statistics</strong> Internal Controls Fraud Risk <strong>...</strong></a></p> <p>If the employees, have something better to do; they should quit and find other employment. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 23 Oct 2014 01:25:29 +0000 Resistance comment 200069 at http://dagblog.com Right on the money. http://dagblog.com/comment/200031#comment-200031 <a id="comment-200031"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/200025#comment-200025">The 3-dimensional chess</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Right on the money.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Oct 2014 04:20:49 +0000 Resistance comment 200031 at http://dagblog.com The 3-dimensional chess http://dagblog.com/comment/200025#comment-200025 <a id="comment-200025"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/200019#comment-200019">This is outrageous!  Just in</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The 3-dimensional chess explanation, don't know whether I believe this:</p> <p>1. Bezos has lots of money, as do a lot of big corporations. It's election season.</p> <p>2. The Supremes are going to reverse the liberal 9th Circuit, and rule for Amazon. It's a slam dunk for sure.</p> <p>3. If the administration supports the 9th circuit ruling it will be like pissing into the wind, make it more likely the workers will lose in the Republican 'corporations are people' SCOTUS.</p> <p>4. Most Democrat voters don't know or pay attention to this stuff, even most Amazon hourly workers likely haven't heard of this, if they have they surely won't know about the administrations amicus brief. The AFL-CIO has no where else to go anyway but the Democrats.</p> <p>5. The case loses, Bezos is happy, as are other deep pockets, the Democrats can say they helped the corporate bottom line.....ergo....give us campaign money, the hourly workers are screwed, and the blame falls on the SCOTUS, Democrats say vote for us or the SCOTUS will get even worse.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:54:18 +0000 NCD comment 200025 at http://dagblog.com Let's see what Bruce Levine http://dagblog.com/comment/200024#comment-200024 <a id="comment-200024"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obamas-doj-ok-screw-hourly-workers-18962">Obama&#039;s DOJ: OK to Screw Hourly Workers</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Let's see what Bruce Levine thinks.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Oct 2014 01:49:07 +0000 Flavius comment 200024 at http://dagblog.com This is outrageous!  Just in http://dagblog.com/comment/200019#comment-200019 <a id="comment-200019"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/obamas-doj-ok-screw-hourly-workers-18962">Obama&#039;s DOJ: OK to Screw Hourly Workers</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This is outrageous!  Just in case the administration guys are wondering...this isn't going to make Mitch McConnell or Ted Cruz like them any better. </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 21 Oct 2014 00:07:37 +0000 CVille Dem comment 200019 at http://dagblog.com