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Mike, I am with you I don't

trkingmomoe — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 04:57:33 +0000

In reply to Are Other People That Dangerous?

Mike, I am with you I don't think the population is as bad as we are being led to believe right now. Crime has fallen. When you see the data that has been gathered about lead in gas, it is very convincing that removing the lead from the environment has led to less violence. That is why children who digest leaded paint from old homes are put through treatment to remove the lead from the body. So they don't grow up with a reduced IQ or become violent. They have known this since the 1950's. When my parents built their house in 1947 they were careful not to use leaded paint. Large cities had more lead in the atmosphere then in the rural areas. Cities had more crime per population then in other areas. As the ground dust loses more of it's led from the wind blowing it away, the violence and crime will continue to fall and then level off. It will be a few more decades before this science is accepted by the public.

The reality is there is less crime and having all those people in prison for non violent drug use needs to stop. The harassment that goes on in poorer neighborhoods needs to stop.

As a matter of a complete

moat — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:46:40 +0000

In reply to Are Other People That Dangerous?

As a matter of a complete process, what police do as agents of the law cannot be understood outside the whole apparatus of crime>conviction>incarceration. This is the broad highway traveled by most people in the system.

The resources provided to make the system work are not based on a calculation of how dangerous people are in general. Like most lines of work, it is based upon at least taking care of the most obvious stuff you encounter everyday. It is not completely stupid because there is a lot of repetition.

One of the most powerful engines of historical change has to be people doing what they thought was their job: But it broke something: Probably a broken thing.

I have lost a great deal of

rmrd0000 — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 01:08:21 +0000

In reply to From NYT, comment on Garner

I have lost a great deal of respect for police officer's. I now believe that police lie in their testimony routinely.

Allowing the prosecutor to take a case to the Grand Jury is now under question. It is not wise to allow the prosecutor, who works closely with police, to take cases of suspected police abuse is broken. There can be no trust in this type of system. Why was the Eric Garner case not taken directly to trial?

From NYT, comment on Garner

Anon ncd — Thu, 04 Dec 2014 00:11:50 +0000

In reply to The Staten Island no indict

From NYT, comment on Garner no indict:

The misuse of the grand jury process for deep-sixing police murders has to stop. The medical examiner who reviewed Garner's case called it a "homicide." The officer used a choke hold which had been deemed illegal by the NYPD. There was a videotape capturing the incident. There was NO REASON to take this case to a secret criminal proceeding UNLESS you're looking to manipulate the outcome.

The Staten Island no indict

Anon ncd — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 23:38:58 +0000

In reply to Agreed, the police leadership

The Staten Island no indict case, where the cop used the banned chokehold to kill a suspect, kinda kills my fantasy of data driven, national 'best practices' policing creating accountability for cops who violate policy.

The family should at any rate get a huge settlement in civil court.......FWIW.

Agreed, the police leadership

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 20:48:42 +0000

In reply to Despicable. Oh, and this was

Agreed, the police leadership was expecting to see a rise in crime without Stop and Frisk. The NYPD is not going to admit that innocent citizens were harassed for no reason.

The only thing that the Michael Brown and Eric Garner cases have done is increase the distrust of law enforcement. Conservatives will try to blame Reverend Sharpton or some other force they deem evil, but the distrust is the direct result of police action.

You are correct, cameras may not change police actions.

Despicable. Oh, and this was

Michael Maiello — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 20:42:06 +0000

In reply to The Staten Island Grand Jury

Despicable. Oh, and this was all filmed. This gives me no confidence that police body cameras are going to do anything more than serve the interests of police.

The Staten Island Grand Jury

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Dec 2014 19:50:33 +0000

In reply to Are Other People That Dangerous?

The Staten Island Grand Jury just decided not to indict NYPD embers for the homicide of Eric a Garner. Choke holds are not legal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/nyregion/no-charges-in-eric-garner-cho...