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Paul defied Authority

rmrd0000 — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:55:12 +0000

In reply to Submission to authority is

Paul defied Authority

You are afraid that justice is not what people seek. We cannot use you as a standard because you are always afraid. The colonists defied the Authority of the King of England when they rebelled, were they in error?

It is being called a lone wolf incident because it is. Do you have any evidence that the shooter was part of a group?

The police unions defy authority by challenging the dismissal of bad cops from police forces. The police unions want the bad cops on the street. The unions are complicit in abuse by police.

The lynching movement is the

Resistance — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:31:42 +0000

In reply to Mr. Lynch and the police

The lynching movement is the plan.

The goal here is to intimidate politicians across the nation

Intimidate Government to meet the demands of the protestors or else all hell will be unleashed.

Inexcusable: Even though M Brown did rob the store owner, and did try to get the gun away from the officer, everyone but the protesters, rioters and looters, got it wrong.

To some; Officer Wilson should have just let Brown kill him and there would be no civil unrest.

The message? Change the laws to exclude Blacks from investigations, because everyone knows Blacks have been abused since the days of slavery.

The Lynch method is not one that would be used by anyone who believes in justice or the law. It is not a way to improve relations and trust between cops and the public.

You can say that again, It's all about vengeance.

Lynch Method

Agitators: We don't need no stinkin Grand Juries,

No Justice No peace

Last days ...... Genocide ?

I would show a rope, but civilized folks might find it offensive.

If the Authority doesn't withstand this assault, the threat of vigilante justice overwhelming the police; as was displayed in Ferguson is real

What side are you on Mr. Politician? Throw a few policeman under the bus to restore calm in the vigilante community?

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Michael Maiello — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:29:22 +0000

In reply to Submission to authority is

Submission to authority is

Resistance — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 21:45:55 +0000

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Submission to authority is RESPECT

You don't have to like the officer but you better well Respect the Authority granted to the officer

Brown should not have died.

He wouldn't have died either had he RESPECTED the Law. He may have been arested but not dead.

Many in the community are not about to excuse the criminal nature of some, because of their skin color and claims of police bias. Obey the Laws,

who happens to be Black

You write this as though it is a rare event that a Black kills another?.

Your last comment was so full of bitterness.

Slavery? When does your hatred end. for the sins of the past? More people must atone until you are satisfied?

As I wrote earlier I am afraid justice is not what many seek; but vengeance and this cop killer just executed two police officers in the name of vengeance and I am not surprised to what lengths many will go to excuse this as a lone wolf incident.

As for the matter of Paul' letter about Authority, Your thoughts are not backed up by supporting evidence.

The problem is that police

Iphonermrd — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 20:17:29 +0000

In reply to Wouldn't you say that

The problem is that police unions argue for the retention of officers found to be operating below department stand by the local police department. The officer applying the banned choke hold was described as a model officer despite payout for strip searching two men. The public has no reason to trust police unions.

I would absolutely agree with

Verified Atheist — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 19:49:01 +0000

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I would absolutely agree with you that there is a difference. With police, mistakes can take someone's life in a second. With teachers, mistakes at worst usually operate over the course of months and can decrease quality of life, but are very unlikely to be fatal. (Even the teachers' unions aren't typically going to defend the most egregious mistakes, whether sexual or violent in nature - which might be another difference.)

Resistance, you brought up

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:19:02 +0000

In reply to Your rants together with

Resistance, you brought up submission to Authority. I bring up examples of where it falls apart. I also note Paul's defying Authority.

Several months ago a lone wolf who happening to be White shot two PA State Police officers. Now a lone wolf who happens to be Black kills two NYPD officers. The protests against police shooting unarmed men is not the fault of the protesters, de Blasio, or me. You on the other hand are OK with the Authority killings. Brown should not have died. The prosecutor allowed the Grand a Jury to here testimony from a racist woman who was not at the scene. Garner should not have died. A banned choke hold was applied.

Your rants together with

Resistance — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:59:25 +0000

In reply to You want people to assemble

Your rants together with others; against authority, contributed to the deaths of two officers.

In every discussion you want to dredge up other arguments, other than the one I presented.

Wouldn't you say that

MrSmith1 — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:44:14 +0000

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Wouldn't you say that Infallibility in regards to teachers is a bit different than with the police? In how many split second life and death situations do teachers find themselves in the course of their teaching careers?

At the risk of receiving

Verified Atheist — Mon, 22 Dec 2014 17:28:30 +0000

In reply to I understand that, and that,

At the risk of receiving Bruce's ire, it seems to me that many unions seek something similar to the "demand for infallibility" that you mention. I remember in particular being disappointed with the teachers' union (when I was a teacher) that they made it so hard to fire bad teachers. I didn't like it with teachers, and I hate it even more for cops. I'm hoping that many other good cops feel the same way that I did, but if they do the vast majority of them appear to be silent. (That said, I wasn't exactly raising a ruckus myself.)