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An authoritative description.

NCD — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 19:32:15 +0000

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An authoritative description.

They also used to station a blue booth outside the DA's residence, while often taking the opportunity to needlessly harass other residents.

Reminds me of all the L.A.

Oxy Mora — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 19:14:44 +0000

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Reminds me of all the L.A. cops living way to the north in Simi Valley. They closed a book store there and I got there late. Was still able to pick up a stash of great books for a buck a piece (including a signed first edition Toni Morrison.). Oh, I forgot, the Reagan library is there.

Stereotype alert.

Perhaps incremental

Oxy Mora — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 19:03:30 +0000

In reply to De Blasio is failing the test

Perhaps incremental improvements will result from the tragedies in Ferguson and New York. An article in the Dallas Morning News discusses a bill being considered to require interrogations of suspects to be recorded---now, in Texas, recordings are only required for confessions, not, e.g., the interrogations leading up to same. The article states that events in Ferguson and New York may give momentum to the idea that heightened scrutiny of officers is needed. The bill would make a suspect's statements as a result of an interrogation inadmissible in court if the interrogation wasn't recorded, (with exceptions). Kevin Lawrence, exec. director of the Texas Municipal Police Association worries that, "A serial killer or some child molester could go free by some technicality that was not intended by the statute."

I'll let you know when this bill passes.

more like sitting in heated

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 18:58:09 +0000

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more like sitting in climate-controlled litle blue booths outside consulates to shoo tourists and other lingerers away and preferably get them moving towards Madison Avenue to shop. Where they already made sure that there are no homeless beggars that morning, they have already shooed them east a few blocks or onto the subway for the day. Want directions Mr. & Mrs. tourist? You should have hired a driver or at least hail a cab! Can't help you, go over to 72nd street entrance to Central Park where there's map, cause we are too important to help you, have to watch for the terrorists. Or you can go to the Met Museum steps where loitering is allowed and ask someone else (but none of this performance shit without a license.) At night, the streets of 10021 are empty except for outside a very few local watering holes, they like it that way, because most of them have gone home to Long Island, off duty. It's real quiet, like a small town, everything's closed.

(Though I live in the Bronx, I know the UES area intimately enough from business)

Awe, those cops were just

Oxy Mora — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 18:27:21 +0000

In reply to finest at what?

Awe, those cops were just caught on a bad day. Normally they are over on fifth Avenue welcoming wealthy tourists to the city.

finest at what?

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 18:23:04 +0000

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finest at what?

At being arrogant and rude and self-centered and thinking they are the best in the world. Just like mid-20th-century New Yorkers!

New York culture has mostly moved on from that old style, become more multi-culti. Even the wealthy have become more multi-culti, more and more of them aren't even American citizens. (Not to brag, as that has different problems, just a reality.)The NYPD has been forceably integrated with the multi-culti for a couple decades now, but this segment of old style "white working class guys from the boroughs we're the best in the world" still has a stranglehold on its culture somehow. It mystifies me how they do it.

It's actually kind of odd because the kind of cops in the video, they don't even live in NYC any more, they live in places like outside the Queens border on Long Island. (The population of Queens is like the U.N. now.) They get assigned to Manhattan somehow, that's part of the stranglehold, I suspect. You don't see many cops that look like that in the boroughs anymore, when you get to Manhattan central, it switches to the cops all look like Archie Bunkers' relatives. And still lay claim to being New Yorkers. Even the Dem machine tends to be more Hispanic these days....

De Blasio is failing the test

NCD — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 16:07:42 +0000

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De Blasio is failing the test, makes sense. He is frankly a door mat for Lynch to hurl insults on.

I note Democrat Cuomo is no where to be seen or heard on the cop situation either,

Although Democrat NY State DA Schniederman, originally from the upper West Side, had the only real solution to these kangaroo cop courts with his suggestion the gov let him have jurisdiction over cases where cops kill the unarmed (instead of local DA shills for cops like Staten Isl. DA Donovan).

I lived and went to school in Manhattan for 9 years just post-Knapp, and frankly, anyone with half a brain knew the cops were corrupt as hell, even if they didn't personally see them shake down citizens for bribes they heard the stories from others.

I did witness a NYC cop collecting a bribe on one occasion. It was from the 2nd floor office of my Dad at a major NYC university overlooking the street. Heavy equipment weighing tons had to move across the sidewalk and had been held up for hours, truck crane there etc., permits were in order as this was a huge upgrade, planned months in advance. The work finally proceeded just as I watched a wad of something change hands on the street. I asked what was going on as I watched alongside my Dad, he said the cop demanded a bribe from the contractor. His university facility was the one being stiffed, and he was mad as hell.

In 9 years I never observed one commendable action by a single NYC cop, it was quite the opposite.

Have they gotten better? I certainly hope so. But when someone says NYC cops are the finest in the world, I ask, finest at what?

Thank you for clearing that

Verified Atheist — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 14:13:42 +0000

In reply to Let me clear up any

Thank you for clearing that up Resistance, I actually was including you in the idea that no one here would defend the actions of those particular police, and I'm glad that you've reinforced that belief. I know we have our disagreements, but I know you wouldn't wish that treatment on anyone.

Let me clear up any

Resistance — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 11:21:29 +0000

In reply to Paging Resistance... Oh, I'll

Let me clear up any misconceptions; I prefer dancing behind the back in most instances, it's less confrontational and I can live to dance another day

NCD, I'm going to add some

artappraiser — Thu, 01 Jan 2015 08:23:42 +0000

In reply to Hey Michael, you dance behind

NCD, I'm going to add some things trying to get into your point about culture of corruption and the need for a purge. It's tough for me to explain but I'd like to try. The remnants that cling, the whole union attitude is intimately involved with the culture of corruption of the Dem machine in the boroughs. Some lower level pols and their appointees in government have the same attitude of entitlement to be assholes to the people they serve and to "get one on" to make some profit or power for themselves and their own on the side.

This is precisely why DeBlasio is having trouble and Bloomberg didn't. Bloomberg was authoritiarian himself. He could say cut the shit, all of youse, I am not playing that game and I will support something like your stop and frisk because I think it's correct policy, but you have to cut all of this other shit. They couldn't do their usual circle the horses, everyone else is the enemy routine. I was just thinking about the last time I saw NYPD cops act polite to confused tourists (a reminder that tourism is our income just as much as Wall Street if not more, especially now that Manhattan residential real estate is more and more foreign pied-a-terres.) It was during the early Blloomberg years, not before and not since. Somehow, I don't know how exactly to express it, this is really getting at the why of the phenomenon of NYC voting tor Republican/Independent mayors. He was verging on making them get it: the old days of your power are gone. Now they have a Dem mayor, the remnants of the old machine are making a play, testing DeBlasio out, seeing if they can force him to let them continue and maybe even grow their power.