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Neocons: the Echo of German

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 16:29:01 +0000

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Oops, edited out to mov to the right place.

Michael Wolraich: the above

artappraiser — Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:36:16 +0000

Michael Wolraich: the above is a spammer, the link is to an online gambling site.

It's actually kind of interesting as a specimen, I was just yesterday reading (|Mashable via Linked In, I think?) how marketers have to support good journalism because good content is how you get the valuable eyeballs, content is king, yadda yadda. He we have the union of spam and content!

Is this the way it works? > Create a content comment on a news topic, put your link in, then search the web via keyword for discussion threads where the comment is relevant, and: paste; rinse and repeat?

Murdering is never be

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Feb 2015 06:39:38 +0000

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Murdering is never be appreciated anywhere. And killing someone only because of his name shows a very dirty picture of the society. Just because some peoples commit evil deeds doesn't mean that whole community is evolved in that deed. He is a responsible citizen of the country but killed just because his name is Ahmed.

The only thing these groups

rmrd0000 — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 00:39:21 +0000

In reply to rmrd, did you see this one?

The only thing these groups are doing is making themselves appear less than human. Their brutality is supposed to create fear, instead it creates anger. If the kill Jews, Christians, Muslims, Black, Broown, White, Asian, and Latino, why should anyone outside of the group care about ISIS, ISIL, Al-Queda, Boko Horam, etc?

The Islamists do not represent Islam. It would not be surprising to learn that few of those who want to institute Siriah law, understand the Koran, the groups ca n at track to power mad and revenge seekers, Carry a weapon can boost your ego. Killing might make you feel superior. At the end of the day these groups create a vision of a society that no one outside of the groups themselves would want to live.

Getting a child to kill is not something to promote as honorable.

Monsieur Bathily was a true,

Bruce Levine — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:50:47 +0000

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Monsieur Bathily was a true, selfless hero, and certainly an example to all. I did not mean to downplay the lives he undoubtedly saved. I do like to think that most people are like Monsieur Bathily, if not quite as courageous. Thank you for pointing him out AA.

rmrd, did you see this one?

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:25:10 +0000

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rmrd, did you see this one? it's almost like they are wracking their brains trying to come up with new stuff, to go where no offense has gone before except in video game fantasies:

Islamic State uses a child to execute alleged Russian spies

January 13 In a new propaganda film released by the Islamic State, two alleged spies for the Russian Federal Security Service are executed by a child. This boy, who is an ethnic Kazakh, was previously featured in another Islamic State propaganda film.

This may be helpful, or cause

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 23:09:04 +0000

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This may be helpful, or cause more confusion, but it is certainly applicable if you're for more civilization and not less civilization:

Civilization’s Advance has depended on “Blasphemy” of Thinkers & Mystics

By Farhang Jahanpour @ Juan Cole's Informed Comment, Jan. 15

...one of the staffers killed at Charlie Hebdo premises was a Muslim copy-editor who was highly respected for the breadth of his learning....

It was not an act of piety, but of rage by a group of semi-literate militants and petty criminals, with very little knowledge of Islam, who had visited a number of trouble spots in the Middle East, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and who had been radicalized due to what they saw as Western attacks on their fellow Muslims...

Satire exposes the stupidity of the fundamentalists in all religions. Fundamentalists are people who take everything too seriously, and who lack a sense of humor. The satirists expose those who are incapable of laughing at themselves and at their weird beliefs.

Sometimes, it is necessary to break the silence and give offense. As the Soviet dissident Yevgeny Yevtushenko said: “When the truth is replaced by silence, the silence itself is a lie.” And as Martin Luther King said: “Nothing in the entire world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”

If we wish to get rid of ignorance and stupidity, we must have the courage to speak out even at the risk of offending others.

It's like I said before, it really coalesced into this question: what kind of world do you want to live in? One that rewards ignorance combined with anger and violent blackmail with respect? Or a world where when something like this happens: world leaders come together for a moment to agree that this act symbolizes a step too far? Whoever thinks civilization is defined by polite words and manners doesn't get what civilization is, mho. Tolerance is quite a different thing, and kindness and empathy quite a different thing again.

All is not lost as far as

artappraiser — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 22:39:37 +0000

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All is not lost as far as multi-culti tolerance in France, bslev, look at this from the Informed Comment article I just posted below:

At a kosher grocery store in Paris, where four people were killed, a quick-thinking Muslim employee, Lassana Bathily, a young immigrant from Mali, hid several Jewish shoppers in the basement before sneaking out to brief police on the hostage-taker upstairs. Initially confused by the police for the attacker, he was forced to the ground and handcuffed. Once the police realized their mistake, he provided them with the key they needed to open the supermarket’s metal blinds and mount their assault.

Not to mention it was also a lesson for the French police about being careful about taking the profiling thing too far!

They do have a serious profiling problem, there was a piece in the NYT today that got into that some. You take profiling too far, it's a vicious circle, people segregate themselves from the rest of society when they normally wouldn't.

Somewhere in all of this, there are lessons I think for the whole I-P situation, I just can't firm up where they are yet.

I appreciate you comment and

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:32:19 +0000

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I appreciate you comment and agree that hypocrisy, as Flavius also pointed out, is part of every human's thoughts and expressions unless maybe they are very simple minded a dogmatic capable of living up to their beliefs. I can say with complete honesty that while I may be simple minded, I aint no saint. Witnesses available on request.

I wish I had a better way with words. This guy does, it only took him a few.

" I am marching but I am aware of the hypocrisy and confusion of the situation".

I find this all fairly simple

Bruce Levine — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 13:41:27 +0000

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I find this all fairly simple. I'd like to see the Charleys of the world publish without fear of violence, but never insulated from criticism and scorn.

I guess I've spent a lot of the week thinking it would be nice for French Jews to feel safe to wear kippot in Paris. I don't wear one in NYC but I know I could wear one just about anywhere without fear of abuse -- or worse. Makes me sad.

Kind of just an appendage to the huge demonstration of Parisians last week, I guess. But four French Jews, whose names I've not memorized, were killed while shopping on the eve of Shabbat last week, and not for what they wrote, but only because they were Jews. May their memories be a blessing.

P.S. Hypocrisy, respectfully, and $2.50, usually just get you on the subway Lulu. it's part of our essence, the bad part of our essence, and it's universal (and yet it is still, as you have here and for genuine reasons you hold dear, important to point out).

Edited to add --Nice work, both in your candid presentation and in your comments that follow.