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" It's a much more complex

LULU — Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:44:33 +0000

In reply to I'm not saying no harm no

" It's a much more complex story about human nature and psychology."

I definitely agree with that.

Yeah, there's always that.

LULU — Tue, 10 Feb 2015 04:18:01 +0000

In reply to OceanKat's point is backed by

Yeah, there's always that. Half the good stories are 3rd person lies except that you know they were true for somebody.

Thanks for commenting. I

Danny Cardwell — Tue, 10 Feb 2015 01:15:35 +0000

In reply to The Brian Williams story is

Thanks for commenting. I appreciate the honesty in your criticism. I agree that hard numbers combined with the empirical data I offered would have been more effective. I think anyone who writes, and is honest, can admit that every idea doesn't always end up articulated the way it's conceived. I was a bit lost on where Brian Williams fit into this, but I agree that people often and embellish their accomplishments and accolades.

There are real issues relating to the black community that are often repeated. I might not have provided any insight into those issues for you, but it did spark a dialogue for others. Again thanks for your time and consideration.

In that case, she called me

Oxy Mora — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:42:59 +0000

In reply to Great story Oxy. It makes me

In that case, she called me the next day.....

Great story Oxy. It makes me

ocean-kat — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:16:43 +0000

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Great story Oxy. It makes me feel like i was there. Probably when I relate it to a friend I will be.

I'm not saying no harm no

ocean-kat — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:14:02 +0000

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I'm not saying no harm no foul. But I do think the story is more than just that he's a liar. It's a much more complex story about human nature and psychology. Given human nature I think he should be publicly shamed and watched a bit more closely for years. The embarrassment and scrutiny is sufficient.

With all I've read over the years in psychology and the unreliability of memory I'm skeptical of even my most trusted friend's stories. I may not question them like a prosecutor (/laughing... or I wouldn't have any friends} but I never take any version, even my own, at face value

OceanKat's point is backed by

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 22:00:20 +0000

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OceanKat's point is backed by a number of psychological studies where we basically write new events in our heads. It's quite frequent in "childhood memories" that are actually stories relatives told us that we think we remember - even to find out it was a different sibling that did what we think we did - perhaps a year before we were born.

I flew into Sarajevo on a troop transport plane some months (a year?) after Hillary, the first one allowing civilians if I recall correctly, and seem to recall some concern that there were occasional potshots fired from the ground - just how real this was, I've no idea - I was just amazed to be sitting sideways on a plane, with a quite uncomfortable seat. But no running to the terminal. But then I was at the Jaganath (Juggernaut) festival in Puri and all I can remember is some image of being in a huge crowd, and some idea of maybe a large float, but who knows. Other less impressive events like mowing the lawn 40 years later I can remember no problem.

I'm remembering the time Lena

Oxy Mora — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:31:09 +0000

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I'm remembering the time Lena Horne invited me up to her suite at the Waldorf, well actually it was a group of us, and engaged me in conversation, well maybe it was more like "hello, there boys" and I thought she really was taken with me, except she was dating one of the Four Freshman---or was it one of the other Four Somethings---and man was there a buffet---or was it mostly gone by the time we got up there, and kissed me, maybe on the cheek as I was leaving. Anyway we got to hear her sing and record an album and what a terrific night it was, as I remember.

"Yeah, I'm sure it will. But

A Guy Called LULU — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:30:04 +0000

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"Yeah, I'm sure it will. But it's still trivial and I expect it will be considered old hat and she will be given a pass. Just as Reagan's misremembering is."

Yes, you are probably correct but that doesn't make it 'right'. The presumed beneficial affect of being held accountable for deliberate falsehoods or even casual stretching of the truth by the use of self-flattering BS, or a lie of any other nature, while serving as a major media journalist, should have some bearing on how this instance is judged, IMO. BW isn't a common person in a common situation telling an old story to old friends over a beer or ten. Isn't there an assumed pledge by journalists to tell the truth? Shouldn't that be worth something either when believed or in the breach? Being caught in a deliberate and long-term ongoing lie should lessen his ten million dollar a year credibility which is based on his choreographed image. It is definitely a misstep which should be noted and should be remembered. This finding of him telling, for years, a BS war story which was corrected by others almost immediately and then several more times over the years, should hurt his image more so than that of others in the common situations you compare it to. Again, just my opinion. I don't think this instance of BS is earth shaking, it doesn't cause the damage some lies have, it didn't kill anyone, but it should shake him and any other BS spouting journalist a bit to see the results of getting caught. He should not get an assumption of no harm- no foul.

Yeah, I'm sure it will. But

ocean-kat — Mon, 09 Feb 2015 21:05:19 +0000

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Yeah, I'm sure it will. But it's still trivial and I expect it will be considered old hat and she will be given a pass. Just as Reagan's misremembering is.

If there was some "omni-o-scope" that we could use to view a video of any past event in our lives I'm sure that most of the time we all would be saying, "Is that what really happened back then?" If the truth were known about the stories we tell we would all have credibility issues.