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I think this look could work

Doctor Cleveland — Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:36:24 +0000

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I think this look could work for me.

Maybe I could be the always

Michael Maiello — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:20:37 +0000

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Maybe I could be the always regal King Haku...

Y'all got me to thinkin'

A Guy Called LULU — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:41:15 +0000

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Y'all got me to thinkin' 'bout King's X.

Obama also mentioned the use

rmrd0000 — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 20:07:48 +0000

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Obama also mentioned the use of Christianity to support both slavery and Jim Crow. There was such tension between factions in churches that the Baptists and Methodist churches split over the issue of slavery. The justifications used for slavery in the United States is eerily similar to the justification for slavery by ISIS/ISIL and Boko Horam, Fanatics are always certain that they have the right of dominion over others.

Conservative Catholics go "tilt" when the listen to some of the words of Pope Francis. The Pope is the final word on Catholic doctrine, but Conservative Catholics are questioning the statements of the Pope.

The Bible and the Koran contain statements of peace and statements of freedom and not being a slave to any man. Southern Baptists and Southern Methodists of the past ignored those peace-seeking passages to focus on the ones that supported the vile practice of slavery in the United States. Slavery was followed by the brutal Jim Crow. Many Christians made a conscious decision to take an active role in Jin Crow by standing mute on the sidelines. Taking no action is an action. Those Christians are known by their works and they receive a failing grade on morality. Southern Baptists apologized for their failings.

Members of Islamist fanatic groups today support slavery as based in religion. Like the pro-slavery supporters of the past, the evil evidenced by their deeds has to be called out. You can find peace and freedom in religious texts, but only if you are seeking peace and freedom. Keeping a person in bondage is not peace.

Oh right.

Doctor Cleveland — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 19:04:34 +0000

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Oh right.

Anyway, it might not have been King Richard I. It might have been Sir Francis Bacon.

I give people my word as a

Doctor Cleveland — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 19:03:52 +0000

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I give people my word as a Burger King.

Oh, believe me, I know. That

Doctor Cleveland — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 19:03:16 +0000

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Oh, believe me, I know. That post-Reformation stuff is my wheelhouse. And I'm always looking for an excuse to link to this:

I think Obama picked the Crusades because he knew what he said would also have an audience in the Middle-Eastern world, for whom the Crusades are very much alive as a metaphor for contemporary events.

And I think Obama got burned, as he often has, by picking an example that no reasonable person could consider controversial at this point. The crazy right's willingness to dispute everything often takes him by surprise, but I also don't see how you could plan for that.

I'm definitely going to start

Michael Maiello — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:37:47 +0000

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I'm definitely going to start telling people that I'm giving them my word as a king. Though I might have to change my avatar.

Oh, Doc, are you sure? That

Ramona — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:23:32 +0000

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Oh, Doc, are you sure? That was a long time ago and since there was no internet how do I know you and those other historian guys didn't just make that up? After all, we're talking about religion. So watch your step.

Thanks for the history lesson

Michael Wolraich — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 18:00:40 +0000

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Thanks for the history lesson, Doc! Frankly, I think Obama shouldn't have waded into the crusades at all. The post-Reformation wars between Catholics and Protestants were bloodier, more vicious, and more contemporary.