dagblog - Comments for "Shelby Steele forgets liberal history. Maybe liberals need to remind him?" http://dagblog.com/link/shelby-steele-forgets-liberal-history-maybe-liberals-need-remind-him-19358 Comments for "Shelby Steele forgets liberal history. Maybe liberals need to remind him?" en I don't know; does Shelby http://dagblog.com/comment/205077#comment-205077 <a id="comment-205077"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/204896#comment-204896">The question is what the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I don't know; does Shelby care whether the poor advance or not? American conservatives don't seem concerned with what happens to the poor.</p> <p> </p> <p>I'm surprised that Kaye asked rhetorically "does anyone want to" get rid of government regulations on business and the market.  A considerable number of people do, although I think a disproportionate number of them are wealthy.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:13:42 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 205077 at http://dagblog.com Shelby Steele? http://dagblog.com/comment/205024#comment-205024 <a id="comment-205024"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/204895#comment-204895">I read through it but all the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p><img alt="" src="http://dagblog.com/sites/default/files/pictures/picture-4147.gif" style="height:39px; width:37px" /><em><strong>Shelby Steele?</strong></em></p> <p>Orating on high from the tower of Stanford University's  <em>Hoover Institute</em> conservative think tank here in California, he's been wrong before and he'll be wrong again.</p> <p>His tome from 2007:</p> <p class="rtecenter"><img alt="" src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8666/16114216354_db65a9e8df_o.jpg" style="height:333px; width:250px" /></p> <p>After the re-election of Obama <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/10/business/media/10book.html?ref=politics">Steele is quoted as saying in the New York Times</a>, "<em>...that he was the one who slapped the subtitle onto the book — 'in about 30 seconds' when Barack Obama was trailing Hillary Rodham Clinton by about 25 percentage points."</em></p> <p>There is a saying, "The river is a mile wide and an inch deep."</p> <p>~OGD~</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 06 Mar 2015 21:39:34 +0000 oldenGoldenDecoy comment 205024 at http://dagblog.com That could be, Momoe--the http://dagblog.com/comment/204903#comment-204903 <a id="comment-204903"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/204895#comment-204895">I read through it but all the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That could be, Momoe--the Democrats did lose the South over the Civil Rights Movement, but the liberals' official inferiority complex took hold when Ronald Reagan seduced the press into reporting that liberals were nothing more than naive children clinging to the old FDR socialism.</p> <p>He was like a steamroller, using his supposed charm to undermine unions (a former union leader himself) and to begin the long goodbye to U.S manufacturing by encouraging free market ideas like outsourcing and off-shoring. </p> <p>His entire presidency was an all-out attack on liberalism, which might not have been as effective if he hadn't had the press in his pocket.  From there, the big money interests saw their chance and the propaganda against liberals never let up. </p> <p>The worst part of it was that liberals began to believe that, with so many against them, they must be doing something wrong.  Many of them even changed their name to "progressives", as if sticking with "liberal" labeled them as. . .naive children clinging to the old FDR socialism.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:04:00 +0000 Ramona comment 204903 at http://dagblog.com The question is what the http://dagblog.com/comment/204896#comment-204896 <a id="comment-204896"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/shelby-steele-forgets-liberal-history-maybe-liberals-need-remind-him-19358">Shelby Steele forgets liberal history. Maybe liberals need to remind him?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The question is what the poverty level would be without the Society. Ask Shelby to name one Republican led state that has seen advances made by the poor. Ask him to name any country that fared well using Conservative economics. Arnie killed California, a Democrat is bringing it back. Walker is killing Wisconsin, but is championed as a Presidential candidate. Brownbeck is choking the life out of Kansas. If Paul Ryan's budget had been put into place, the country would be in a Depression. Name one thing of value that current Conservatives offer.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 04 Mar 2015 05:10:50 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 204896 at http://dagblog.com I read through it but all the http://dagblog.com/comment/204895#comment-204895 <a id="comment-204895"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/link/shelby-steele-forgets-liberal-history-maybe-liberals-need-remind-him-19358">Shelby Steele forgets liberal history. Maybe liberals need to remind him?</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I read through it but all the time I was reading I was thinking the problem lies in a backlash to civil rights.  That it isn't so much liberals not fighting back but the backlash has been suicidal. </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 04 Mar 2015 04:12:23 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 204895 at http://dagblog.com