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OK, you've got some good

Verified Atheist — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:17:35 +0000

In reply to Really? How was Gene McCarthy

OK, you've got some good arguments there. I don't expect it, but I can't rule it out, and I'm often surprised, so… (I really, really thought there was absolutely no way Bush could get re-elected in '04.)

Really? How was Gene McCarthy

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 12:05:46 +0000

In reply to "it's difficult to imagine

Really? How was Gene McCarthy with Humphrey's nomination? Reagan with Ford's victory in 1976? Ford asking for a co-presidency in 1980? Didn't John Connally form "Democrats for Nixon" to kill McGovern's chances even more?

Just making stuff up, grumble grumble grumble.

"it's difficult to imagine

Verified Atheist — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:43:44 +0000

In reply to "it's difficult to imagine

"it's difficult to imagine the media digging up anything on Clinton that's not already known" - let me guess, you predicted the mini-email scandal?

Fair enough, but that just proves my point that there doesn't need to be a primary challenger for the media to dig stuff up on her.

And sure, John Andersons and Jesse Jacksons are not unlikely, but a Ted Kennedy is.

I think focusing on electing

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 06:53:59 +0000

In reply to It feels like there's already

I think focusing on electing liberal Senators and Congressman will do much more good than worrying about influencing Hillary's political positions at 67 years old.

Do people really think that a candidate swinging left for the primary is really going to affect how they rule in the White House? I'm sure Obama's been leafing through those campaign promises in bed just to make sure he han't missed one. Bush was a notorious stickler for keeping to his compassionate conservatism & Social Security lockbox, eh?

"it's difficult to imagine

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:54:19 +0000

In reply to I think that for someone who

"it's difficult to imagine the media digging up anything on Clinton that's not already known" - let me guess, you predicted the mini-email scandal? no, there are always new possibilities, and the press has been amazingly proficient at inventing scandals if there is none. Remember Al Gore not working on the farm in Tennessee? Living in the Ritz Hotel? saying he invented the internet and discovered Love Canal? All invented scandals, with people like Mo Dowd twisting words to make it seem like he said stuff he didn't.

Clinton Derangement Syndrome assures this will happen over and over.

"Do we really expect a Ted Kennedy or Jerry Brown pouter, especially since Clinton is the presumptive nominee? Very unlikely" - uh right, like politicians are such great team players, especially Democrats? John Anderson took his defeat into a 3rd party run. Jesse Jackson took his defeat to Dukakis as a chance to talk more about himself (not that I blame hime). Hillary was rather unique in this regard, despite all the nasty crap said about her.

It feels like there's already

barefooted — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 05:45:32 +0000

In reply to It all depends on how vicious

It feels like there's already a whisper primary being waged, but it doesn't do damage to democrats in the usual way. All the grumbling and overt cynicism about Clinton's "coronation" is working against the party. Republicans are already using it to prove her vulnerability.

I'd love a real, substantial, topic-driven primary, one that starts with good candidates on a level playing field and ends with someone democrats come together to support. But this time we just aren't going to have that - so we're wasting time we should be spending using the head start we have. Warren, O'Malley, Sanders and lots of other progressives to Hillary's left can get their agendas out there while actively supporting our nominee. That will help all of us.

It all depends on how vicious

ocean-kat — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 03:50:55 +0000

In reply to I think that for someone who

It all depends on how vicious the campaign would be. it would be good if there was a contested primary if it doesn't turn so vicious that who ever wins is battered, bruised, and tarnished at the end. If O'Malley gets traction it could turn pretty ugly since a lot of women want to see the glass ceiling broken and quite understandably so. Even as a male I want to see the glass ceiling broken. I wish the democrats would hold back a bit on the fire at other democrats but I understand why that doesn't happen.

You certainly have a good

stillidealistic — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 03:02:25 +0000

In reply to "W/o a primary, it actually

You certainly have a good point.

So, what's the answer?

No one wants to challenge her, but somehow, some interest needs to be drummed up...

Exactly! I think it's

stillidealistic — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 02:57:27 +0000

In reply to It's absolutely true that a

Exactly! I think it's horribly unfair to ask ANYONE to do that. And I would hate to have Elizabeth Warren tarnished by the "probable" loss. I think she has a great future ahead of her, but it needs to the one she wants, and she doesn't want to run right now.

It's good to be back, Barefooted!

O'Malley is a true liberal

trkingmomoe — Wed, 25 Mar 2015 00:23:57 +0000

In reply to Frankly, momoe, I think O

O'Malley is a true liberal and a party team player. He will do what needs to be done to help with this election. No one wants to work hard knowing their chances are slim but he seems to like the campaign trail.

I took time to dig up all his you tube clips since the first of the year. He has been out there defining himself before the actual campaign starts. I just listened to them all while I am doing housework. He has been very gracious to HRC over the email questions the media has been thrown at him. More recently he has told the reporters he was tired of that question and cuts them off. He is saying all the things the left wants to hear about increasing wages, increasing taxes on investment income and using that to rebuild infrastructure. Investing in education on all levels and the need to return the Glass Steagall Act. He is very supportive of the things that our President has done. He wants to approach global warming as a jobs opportunity.

We will have to see if he can stay in the game and build some interest. I can see him as a cabinet member for labor.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-03-23/martin-o-malley-wants-to-be-the-glass-steagall-candidate