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Of course you're right - I

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 19:07:32 +0000

Of course you're right - I assume you're being molested by a 3-ton extraterrestrial nibbling on your kidneys while dancing the Locomotion - because after all, you didn't say it wasn't happening. We should be cautious about arguments from silence, and as Harlan Ellison noted, in space no one can hear you scream.

No, I don't think their

Aaron Carine — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 18:32:55 +0000

In reply to And you don't think they

No, I don't think their failure to talk about canings and rape demonstrates that it isn't happening. We should be cautious about arguments from silence; at least in accounts as brief as these two were. One of the guys was on a tour of the prison; I doubt the warden was eager to tell him about the horrors within the walls.

And you don't think they

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 14:15:24 +0000

In reply to I didn't see anything in the

And you don't think they would have mentioned canings & rape?

I didn't see anything in the

Aaron Carine — Tue, 31 Mar 2015 13:03:46 +0000

In reply to Oh, I"m sure the 5000

I didn't see anything in the two accounts of Changi prison to convince me that it is more humane than American prisons. The journalist said they had to sleep on the floor, while convicts in America get beds. Possibly the medical care is better, although I wonder if no convict in America would say they are "pretty well looked after" in terms of food and medical care. There was nothing said about rapes, so we have no basis of comparison in that matter. I also would have liked to have read something about the punishments in Changi prison; do they include canings?

...shouldn't chase other

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:13:46 +0000

In reply to Yes, those of us who taze in

...shouldn't chase other spouses?

...soon come to rue the day?

...should keep our spotwelds to ourselves?

...keep up with current events?

...should turn the heat/voltage down a notch?

...chaise in the workshop?

can't find le mot apropos...

Should not spit gum on the

NCD — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:53:27 +0000

In reply to Yes, those of us who taze in

Should not spit gum on the streets of Singapore.

Yes, those of us who taze in

Michael Maiello — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:17:14 +0000

In reply to Do you and I presume Michael,

Yes, those of us who taze in glass houses...

Oh, I"m sure the 5000

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:13:28 +0000

In reply to How many of the five thousand

Oh, I"m sure the 5000 killings were all lawful, as all the NSA & telco surveillance and overthrowing Libya without Congressional approval and treatment Gitmo & death-by-chokehold and whatever else. We'd never break the law - and if we did, we're at least smart enough to pass retroactive immunity or somehow wash it away with some "expert witness" testimony. The blue wall of silence rulez.

"People get raped in Singapore's prisons too, in addition to things that don't happen here." - congrats, you're truly American - assume that everywhere else is as bad as anything bad in America - plus a bunch of other unnamed stuff too!!!!

No, the rape in Singapore prisons isn't endemic like the guaranteed rape in US prisons, sorry to burst your bubble. We really have designed our prisons in a more sadistic way than many other countries. Justify it away if you wish.

http://www.foreignprisoners.com/prison-changi01.html

http://travel.cnn.com/singapore/life/peter-lloyd-journo-jailbird-reveals-all-876542

Do you and I presume Michael,

NCD — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 19:19:51 +0000

In reply to In the past, you often heard

Do you and I presume Michael, believe 'our standards' including who we execute, how we run our prisons and treat prisoners, our justifications for starting wars or torturing people, what we do at 'black sites', who we 'drone', our national standards for cop use of deadly force (hint - we don't even keep track of the # dead), our pro-gun culture with 30k killed by guns every year, our clearly for sale and tilted to the rich/powerful system of justice.......if compared and contrasted would shine a cleansing light of ethical virtue on the 'caners of petty thieves' of Singapore?

In the past, you often heard

Aaron Carine — Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:35:40 +0000

In reply to Cane-Do Lee Kuan Yew

In the past, you often heard people saying "other cultures cannot be judged by our standards". That was tantamount to denying that human rights are universal--outrages in other lands are okay because they are just part of their quaint traditions. In one of his books, Will Durant asserted that women in India didn't mind being oppressed. We've seen how that was poppycock.