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I agree that there needs to

stillidealistic — Sun, 29 Mar 2015 03:56:25 +0000

The first thing that came in

synchronicity — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 23:53:26 +0000

In reply to Christian Guy talks up rape and murder of Atheist Wives and Daughters at Prayer Breakfast. More Coffee, Anyone?

The first thing that came in to my mind was the ignorance of confusing an anarchist with an atheist... Still an outstandingly idiotic and outrageous load of garbage but that's what I first thought when I read his ridiculous rant.

I agree that there needs to

stillidealistic — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:45:04 +0000

In reply to I think you're missing my

I agree that there needs to be serious uproar in the Christian community, I just have no idea where it will come from. It is very difficult for Christians to rise up against each other, especially when it means the appearance of siding with non-believers, or in this case "baby-killers" and/or the "abomination" of homosexuality, whether they are believers or not.

There must be SOMEONE in Christian leadership who finds this appalling, but as with the caucuses sticking together in congress, having the balls to stand up to fellow pastors and calling them out is a whole 'nuther thing.

Come to think of it, I don't think we've heard from Jimmy Carter lately...Maybe it's time to get him to smack them around a bit!

Doesn't it say somewhere in our founding documents there is to be no religious test for holding office?

Pence is getting some bad

Ramona — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:24:11 +0000

In reply to There is a backlash that will

Pence is getting some bad press, all right. That picture of the clerics at the secret signing looked a bit too much like Salem during the witch hunts. Things are getting very weird.

There is a backlash that will

trkingmomoe — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:18:31 +0000

In reply to I think you're missing my

There is a backlash that will wake up Indiana on this mistake. Corporations in Indiana are not happy with it. They do business internationally and don't want their customers and employees mistreated. It is bad for business.

I sited a source several

trkingmomoe — Sat, 28 Mar 2015 00:04:23 +0000

In reply to Ramona, do you have a source

I sited a source several months ago before the election that the mega churches was loosing members. This was making it difficult for these churches to rake in the large amount of money needed to maintain them. The older generations was aging out and the younger ones were not that interested. Many of them just don't have the money and time for this. They also don't agree with the social repression and racism that is coming from these zealots.

The drop off membership was at all levels. I also think it has to do with the economy.

I think you're missing my

Ramona — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 19:02:02 +0000

In reply to Ramona, I don't think its a

I think you're missing my point. There are prosperity preachers all over the place, black and white. Scammers that they are, they're the least of our problems. I'm talking about the power brokers--the ones using Christianity to build and enjoy power at the expense of our citizens. They've infiltrated our government and our schools. I guarantee that every GOP 2016 candidate will be preaching the hard stuff, sounding just like Ayatollahs until the November elections. They're becoming more and more dangerous and I'll say it again--I don't care what they're calling themselves these days, they need to be stopped.

Pence's actions in Indiana are only the beginning. Without some serious opposition coming from outraged true Christians, we'll be seeing more and more discrimination based on "religious values".

Ramona, I don't think its a

rmrd0000 — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 18:45:17 +0000

In reply to The fact that more and more

Ramona, I don't think its a pretense that it doesn't exist, it is more that they nut jobs are not considered important. You are going to be arguing about hellfire reigning down, slavery is Biblical, and women are subservient to men among other things. The snippet argument is easy. Scripture will be quoted by the nuts. The counter argument provides interpretion and not sound bites. The context argument requires are larger investment of time than is likely allowed on TV.

I do understand your point. Creeflo Dollar is a TV pastor who asked for donations for a private jet on his website. The response was to let Black radio show hosts ridicule him to death. Pastor Dollar pulled the request from his website. I think the feeling is these folks self destruct. Eddie Long, another pastor, was a raging homophobe. Naturally he had a desire for young men in his flock and was public ally humiliated.

The fact that more and more

Ramona — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:40:09 +0000

In reply to Ramona, do you have a source

The fact that more and more pseudo-Christians are getting elected to offices throughout the land based on "faith and family values" tells me there's something insidious going on and it has nothing to do with true Christianity.

There is now a definite religious test for politicians running for office, and, for the most part, they'd better be Christian. They cannot--I repeat, CANNOT--be atheists.

There is a Tea Party Caucus in Congress, 100% "Christian", working diligently to bring religion/Christianity into government.

The GOP candidates on the 2016 presidential list are all conservative Christians who sing it out loud and proud, letting their constituents know that "taking back the country" means moving it toward "Christian values".

I keep hearing that fundamentalist or conservative Christian numbers are small and I have nothing to go on to dispute that except what I'm seeing in the halls of power now.

This movement is phony and not based on true numbers of Christians--conservative, fundamentalist, or otherwise. It is, instead, based on a rotten, deliberately whackadoodle perception of what a faith-based country should look like.

I'll admit I'm terrified that it's working too well and the folks who could put a stop to it--other Christians who draw the line at appearing to attack their own--want to pretend it doesn't exist.

Ramona, do you have a source

stillidealistic — Fri, 27 Mar 2015 17:13:04 +0000

In reply to Stupid fun is one thing, but

Ramona, do you have a source for citing their numbers are growing? I don't have one disputing it, but my sense is their numbers are dwindling, and that is where their fear is coming from.

Note I'm using third person here...which is very hard for me. I consider myself to be a Christian, but not "one of them." These people are sorely testing my faith, because it is so hard to separate "them" from Christianity.

Now infiltrating the government...yes. And that is scary. There are very valid reasons that our founders insisted on the separation of church and state, and this melding is a very bad thing for our country, especially with so many non-Christian Americans.

I'm not sure how this plays out, but I suspect its going to be VERY ugly.