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When my kid acts up in a

Danny Cardwell — Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:13:06 +0000

When my kid acts up in a restaurant I ask for tolerance from the neighboring diners and am grateful to get it. These activists want full recognition of their citizenship. Tolerance will just not cut it.

Brilliant! This was very well written.

Subjects of those who really

Resistance — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 21:58:06 +0000

In reply to Whose subjects?

Subjects of those who are presently in control of Earthly affairs.

Most folks unaware and purposely so.

Like a Black Hole an Unseen Influence we cant see them but we know they exist.

Another Unseen Influence, Requiring a Special Tool To identify.

19 ......... q the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

1 John 5:19

Whose subjects?

Michael Maiello — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 19:59:15 +0000

In reply to The rendering onto Caesar is

Whose subjects?

The rendering onto Caesar is

Resistance — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:51:34 +0000

In reply to That whole Caesar unto Caesar

The rendering onto Caesar is not solely based upon scriptural reasons.

Caesar really only cares about himself and what serves his interests and he doesn't take kindly to dissent and his subjects should and must fear the sword he wields and uses to force compliance to his will.

He doesn't recognize Gods authority. nor does he fear God Pay up or suffer.

As Pharaoh stated and other world leaders mimic "Who is this God, so that I should fear him? "

As Christians, we are reminded to render onto Caesar what is due or expected by him, in order to avoid his (Caesar's) wrath.

Rendering unto Caesar assume we know what Caesar wants.

Ignorance of what Caesar commands is no excuse.

When, in our system, Caesar is us,

We have never been Caesar, we will always be his subjects.

That whole Caesar unto Caesar

Michael Maiello — Mon, 06 Apr 2015 01:06:46 +0000

In reply to Not so fast

That whole Caesar unto Caesar thing, which does have some lasting wisdom to it, is part of the Bible, not our legal system. We all don't adhere to the Bible.

But, accepting your argument... what if same sex marriage rights are in the interests of the public? I certainly believe that they are. There are even people on the cultural right who agree, as marriage tends to lead to long-term family bonds and many conservatives see that as an objective good.

Rendering unto Caesar assume we know what Caesar wants. When, in our system, Caesar is us, that gets complicated.

Not so fast

Resistance — Sun, 05 Apr 2015 22:56:03 +0000

In reply to "Start your own restaurant

Not so fast

The key word is PUBLIC

If you were a Quaker in Pennsylvania opposed to warfare you still paid taxes to support the defense of America, for the PUBLIC good

Same as if you were a pizza man in Indiana or Texas, you still pay taxes into the PUBLIC treasury for the PUBLIC Good.

Caesar doesn't care who or what you like; just pay your tributes (Taxes) to Caesar who is providing the Public service to all.

Unless Caesar proclaims Pizza makers and their goods, are an essential part of the nourishment program in support of Caesars designs?

If you have no intentions of becoming a vendor, to supplying meals for Government entities their are few demands the government can impose upon the private entrepreneur.

( Taxes, payroll, to support Caesar and Health and welfare issues to make sure you don't harm another tax payer or future soldier other than that; Caesar doesn't care if you eat Shite).

"Start your own restaurant

Michael Maiello — Sun, 05 Apr 2015 03:46:25 +0000

In reply to Start your own restaurant and

"Start your own restaurant and you can serve whatever you..."

Sure. But don't expect the people you don't like to subsidize the public services your restaurant will require in order to operate.

Start your own restaurant and

Resistance — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 20:30:07 +0000

In reply to I've been thinkin' bout this

Start your own restaurant and you can serve whatever you like and if folks don't like what your serving, or your service or your beliefs, they don't need to patronize your establishment.

Find someone that will serve you or start your own enterprise.

Similar to the idea of Freedom of Association. Individuals of like minded beliefs or ideas supporting one another is nothing new.

If you want to provide a service to those of like minds, that should be your prerogative

The pizza maker isn't a government agency, that is providing a necessary service ie Utilities,

Private ownership is unlike government controlled monopolies, who cannot impose their beliefs, but must remain neutral.

Freedom of choice. Freedom to associate, Freedom to assemble.

Freedom to start and compete in the market place with your own restaurant.

Well played!

Michael Maiello — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 13:41:35 +0000

In reply to I've been thinkin' bout this

Well played!

I've been thinkin' bout this

ocean-kat — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 07:25:32 +0000

In reply to Tolerance Doesn't Cut It

I've been thinkin' bout this religious freedom thing and I've come around to agree with the christians. Its all because I've been discriminated against because of my religion and it hurts. I've suffered.

For thirteen years I was a buddhist and a vegetarian and I needed a job. I went down to the local steak house and while my references were good they refused to hire me. All because it was against my religion to serve steak to the patrons.

There are laws that protect pharmacists from having to sell birth control pills to people. They can sell the cough syrup and the heart medications. They can sell the AIDS medication, if the person is a heterosexual that got it from a blood transfusion I presume. Since they can sell almost everything in the store they don't have to sell birth control pills.

Well I was more than willing to serve the potatoes, the vegetables, the tiny little stick of parsley, the apple sauce and the cole slaw. I would happily serve everything but the steak. Why wouldn't that steak house respect my religion? Why were they so intolerant of my religious beliefs?

These poor put upon Christians want to totally not serve anything at all to some people. I was willing to serve almost everything to everybody. Just not the steak. And the steak house wouldn't hire me. It's discrimination. They took away my freedom to practice my religion.