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This is almost certainly

Lurker — Sun, 03 May 2015 22:40:35 +0000

This is almost certainly apocryphal, but it's still a good story:

An Irish family with the good old Irish name of Hooligan was infamous for the many drunken brawlers among its sons. It reached the point that the family name became synonymous with wild men who ran amok.

When the family emigrated to the United States, the elders hoped to turn over a new leaf and leave their notoriety behind. So they Americanized their name... to Hoodlum.

I'm sure that's what he said.

ocean-kat — Sat, 02 May 2015 02:26:43 +0000

In reply to CNN now says 6 cops have been

I'm sure that's what he said. No doubt he then said he's never heard of excessive use of force, abuse of power, or corruption by any police officer. He then walked away wondering why no Irish Catholic cop has been elevated to sainthood when they all should have been.

I just wish to cut in on this

Richard Day — Sat, 02 May 2015 02:21:06 +0000

In reply to I moderated the comment

I just wish to cut in on this for a minute.

You are so kind to me.

You will take my unedited stuff and just make it palatable.

I do not have an editor.

Except for Mable of course. hahahah

And you might take a word or a frank and change it.

Speaking loosely for you and your staff of course.

I do not have any idea where your money comes from.

We need a moderator.

But damn, I have suggested before that you sell some time on the right.

Just a couple ads that are Green Friendly or Organic (even though I do not believe in this crap) or just a....a....freeing the seas from plastic.

Anyway, keep on keepin on.

Without you and Mike M and Ramona and Doc.

we got nothin.

the end.

,,,,

I moderated the comment

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 01 May 2015 17:08:36 +0000

In reply to I would like to know what

I moderated the comment because of the insulting remarks directed at the blogger. Your restatement of the main point is fine.

That comes from being white

trkingmomoe — Fri, 01 May 2015 17:07:34 +0000

In reply to CNN now says 6 cops have been

That comes from being informed white trash in a southern town. They can't lynch anymore so they throw them around in the paddy wagon to hurt them.

I would like to know what

Peter — Fri, 01 May 2015 16:58:15 +0000

In reply to No Excuses: Angry Thugs and Looters are Still Thugs and Looters

I would like to know what word of phrase in my comment offended MW enough to censor my whole comment?

My point was that when people use this type of rhetoric it is dehumanizing, these are 'people' even if their actions in the heat of the moment are illegal and wrong headed. I also wrote that i don't condone their actions because i don't place myself above them to judge them.

What we are discussing are reactions to symptoms of a corrupt and authoritarian system with both the cops and the demonstrators playing their roles in this tragedy.

CNN now says 6 cops have been

NCD — Fri, 01 May 2015 16:13:39 +0000

In reply to Thanks for bringing this up.

CNN now says 6 cops have been charged with charges from 2nd degree homicide for the driver to manslaughter.
You are more informed than the NYPD police deputy commissioner John MIller, if you heard of rough rides. He says he never did.

Thanks for bringing this up.

trkingmomoe — Fri, 01 May 2015 15:56:52 +0000

In reply to NYT article today, front page

Thanks for bringing this up. Yes, I have heard of "rough riding." So that is what they did to him.

I liked her piece because it

trkingmomoe — Fri, 01 May 2015 15:39:57 +0000

In reply to Thanks, Momoe. I thought I

I liked her piece because it showed how conflicted we were about this problem. I felt all those things she said as I dug through the facts. In fact I was even worse at sorting this out because I live in an over policed town.

I have had the pleasure of being stopped after grocery shopping with 2 small children in the car at 8 pm at night where the dogs was run through my car terrorizing the kids that are strapped in car seats and a trunk full of groceries. I know I get tagged a few times a year. That is were they follow you and then run your tag to see if you have an arrest warrant outstanding. It is a really creepy feeling to have them up your tail pipe like that. You even have brief moments of panic because it has been a week since you checked to make sure your tail lights are working. I have an old car.

In this state as soon as you let your car insurance expires your insurance company has to notify the state. Your driver license is then suspended and sometimes they make mistakes. They go fishing for that because that is a real cash cow in a poor neighborhood. Insurance isn't cheap.

I think I commented about all the cameras hanging on stop lights and corners. Well they had to turn them off. 2nd circuit said it was against state constitutions because 3rd parties are not allowed to write tickets and warrants. These cameras were run by a for profit company that shared a portion of the revenue to the county. Now I can make right hand turns on red without fear of tripping the camera and getting a $125 ticket mailed to me to pay. Most of the time I would just sit and wait for the green light and who cares if the guy behind me is going nuts honking. He is not going to pay my ticket. The state is trying to pass new laws to have the cameras back, I am sure.

We are worried about a neighbor that was tazed at the entrance of the park and strapped to a stretcher by 5 cops. He hears voices but is a nice guy. We had the humane society come and rescue his birds locked in the trailer. The sheriff came out and let them in. Now his birds are lost to him. He has no family, just his birds. They won't release any info on him and that happened a month ago. He is still not home. My grandson was in the car with me as we saw him being strapped to the stretcher. He is 23 years old and it brought tears to his eyes to see this happen to that old guy. He will never the rest of his life vote for a Republican. The GOP is toast because 51% of our children are growing up in this. They can reform themselves but they will remain a minor party for a generation because these kids will be adults and will never trust them.

I could go on for hours about this giving personal examples. It is becoming a normal in towns of mixed racial and poverty areas. The abuses are just stunning. I see these people in communities like Ferguson and Baltimore courageous to take this on because we are all cowards around here. We will never burn down our local CVS to force the media and government to turn some attention to this. You can try to change the system through proper action but you end up with voting rights blocked. Which is what has happened here.

So this is what it looks like from eyes like mine because I have to live with a version of this abuse.

Thanks, Momoe. I thought I

Ramona — Fri, 01 May 2015 13:27:30 +0000

In reply to I think this is an important

Thanks, Momoe. I thought I had that MJ link up there but I used a different MJ link, instead. Fixed now. But, yes, the police need to answer for that heavy-handed reaction as those kids got out of school. What was the point of keeping them off of their buses?

Just to note, Joan Walsh backtracked on her piece, saying she wished she had had an editor look at it before she published it. But much of what she said was true, it was the way she said it that got her in trouble.