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Peace

Flavius — Sat, 02 May 2015 03:20:49 +0000

In reply to This is really well put and

Peace

This is really well put and

Richard Day — Fri, 01 May 2015 21:52:02 +0000

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This is really well put and Swift is my saint, even though he was a devout Catholic. hahaha

I hereby render unto Flavius, the Dayly Blog of the Day, given to all of him from all of me.

This is really well done.

In My Humble Opion (without Twitterizing) ha

I have to add that this comment just got to me today.

And for good reason.

So I was somewhat surprised .

Flavius — Fri, 01 May 2015 13:02:54 +0000

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So I was somewhat surprised ...when a self-identified gay man....came to my office to complain about police brutality....Unfortunately the man never called me back.

I was disappointed . My experience was that if I presented a plausible case of police misconduct....the department would investigate ,report back to me that nothing untoward had occurred but privately reprimand those involved.

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Of course I agree with most

Flavius — Fri, 01 May 2015 04:30:34 +0000

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Of course I agree with most ,maybe all, of what you write. But I have stayed away from the general subject of race relations because you and others are covering.

What did Swift call it?. His "modest proposal" to bake and eat Irish infants.

My modest proposal above reflects my naive belief that rather than another 150 years of alibi-ing we should bloody do something. . Now. Get off the dime..

In WWII the services of course trained lots of officers in temporary schools. With mixed results. When a similar need reappeared in 1949 the brass decided to do it better. .I knew a guy whose Major General father was part of the fix it team and who told me that a key conclusion was that junior officers should make things happen .

It was pretty simple minded ,and who knows whether it worked but one thing they tried was to deliberately give the trainees conflicting orders and then shout at them for not acting.. A favorite phrase was "Do something even if it's wrong.". .I sort of like that.

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I have already told you at

Richard Day — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:56:13 +0000

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I have already told you at Ramona's blog that I agree with you.

We live in a segregated society; de jure and de facto.

I will see what studies are available.

But we need to provide access to fully funded GED centers open to minorities.

We need to provide training centers open to minorities.

We need to provide employment centers open to minorities.

We need decent homeless centers open to minorities.

We need.....

The police of course are the 'front' used to protect the capitalists. It has always been so and always will be. Property over persons.

All people ,black ,white,

Flavius — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 15:28:54 +0000

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All people ,black ,white, purple can be shaped by their experience. Yesterday's deprived waif is tomorrow's thug..

Unless our society changes- don't hold your breath-we'll continue to produce generations of black thugs, black presidents, thuggish cops and brave helpful ones. I have no suggestion or hope that that will change so I'm in effect proposing an analog of "set a thief to catch a thief."

A truly integrated police force won't magically become kinder and gentler. But I suggest it may become less oppressive because that particular segment of officers will be afraid not to change.

I think the police unions have a particular job to do ,like any defense atty. If cops of any color should be disciplined that's what the police hierarchy should do.

Black law enforcement can be

rmrd0000 — Thu, 30 Apr 2015 14:01:05 +0000

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Black law enforcement can be as brutal as white law enforcement. There are black pundits and reporters on Fox. In the snippets that I have seen, they merely serve to reinforce the racist tone of the network. In GOP politics, both Curly Rand and Ben Carson look at the carnage left by police abuse in Baltimore and lay the problem at a lack of morals in the black community. Clarence Thomas sides with Scalia on most issues involving Civil Rights. Changing skin color does not mean that the culture would change.

If we are penalizing unions as a national endeavor, police unions should be penalized for their actions in getting bad cops reinstated. If bad cops cost communities millions in payouts, then police salary increases should be tied to how much the city has to pay out in lawsuits. This is no different than tying teacher's salaries to children's grades. Economics may force changes in behavior. As it stands now, we send teachers to jail for fudging test results. But let police Who maim return to the force. Change in policing will only come if there are consequences for bad behavior. Bad behavior costs cities money. Economic loss should result in stagnant salaries.