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Yes, the report was published

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 20 May 2015 14:15:43 +0000

In reply to More humor along with

Yes, the report was published by Nielsen. But they point to Selig as the source (not Singer, my bad...):

Note

*Selig Center of Economic Growth, 2012.

More humor along with

rmrd0000 — Wed, 20 May 2015 14:10:41 +0000

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More humor along with inability to admit error. The report was published by Nielsen

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2013/african-american-consume...

You can download a PDF of the report from Nielsen

http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/reports/2013/resilient--receptive-...

Payouts said the numbers were not supplied by Nielsen. You are wrong.

Wattree pointed out the need for wealth development. You ignored that part of his post.

At any rate, David Letterman as a review show tonight. You are no longer needed to fill my entertainment needs for the day.

Buh-Bye

"It means African-Americans

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 20 May 2015 13:56:45 +0000

In reply to You were wrong when you said

"It means African-Americans wield tremendous buying power. The Nielsen study showed numerous shopping trends, mostly for household, health and beauty, travel, smart phones and child-related items." - yawn - marketer's wetdream. And the definition of buying power & total numbers are only developed by Singer, not Nielsen who just does their niche market + demographics thing.

As for the Urban Institute, yes, that's the pessimistic issue of wealth disparity et al that I've been addressing for some time. No, I don't look at wealth gap differently - just "buying power".

Thank you, Richard.

Wattree — Wed, 20 May 2015 12:59:07 +0000

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Thank you, Richard.

I appreciate that.

Ocean-kat, Wattree cited

rmrd0000 — Wed, 20 May 2015 12:26:48 +0000

In reply to The Thrill Is Gone - But I Have A Dream That Can Sustain The Legacy

Ocean-kat, Wattree cited buying power numbers provided by Nielsen. He provided GNP numbers from a Hofstra University Professor. They were not made up numbers. The troll said the numbers were delusional. The numbers were as I said numbers from outside sources. The troll came looking for an argument, not a discussion. You are free to support your troll friend. Have at it.

Edit to add:

Put on your Don Quixote suit and tell me where I offended your knight in shining armor sensitivity. My responses to the troll always cited links. There was no name-calling. At the end talked about my patience. I admitted that I did get amusement from responding to the guy who came here to argue. Was that what gave offense?

Second edit to add:

Note how the person you defend characterizes the black community in his responses.

You were wrong when you said

rmrd0000 — Wed, 20 May 2015 12:21:17 +0000

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You were wrong when you said that Nielsen didn't provide the numbers. Now you say that blacks cannot use an economic threat to accomplish anything. You are wrong again. Glenn Beck got pulled off of FoxNews after efforts by ColorOfChange.COC took advantage of an existing rift between Beck and Fox. Buying power played a role in their tactic to get sponsors to abandon the show. COC used buying power as a lever to get some corporations to leave ALEC a Conservative organization supporting voter suppression.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/02/21/1-trillion-buying-power-black-con...

Buying power can have impact. Black wealth creation is a separate issue. Wattree notes that the focus should be on wealth creation. Black people are capable in seeing the difference. Politics365 noted the Nielsen study but also pointed to a study by the Urban Institute documenting the drop in black wealth. The Urban Institute report appeared in the NYT

If anything is delusional, it is your analysis of how the black community looks at buying power and the wealth gap.

It's all over the city . . .

oldenGoldenDecoy — Wed, 20 May 2015 07:33:38 +0000

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It's all over the city . . .

This is what the people of "greed and avarice" have envisioned around the Metro platforms in the areas such as Leimert Park, in addition to many of the so-called middle class neighborhoods within walking distance of the platforms in Los Angeles.

It's sad... But true...

~OGD~

Nielsen is selling grist for

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 20 May 2015 05:51:10 +0000

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Nielsen is selling grist for marketers and salespeople. It's collecting data for how what demographics viewers are in - including age, ethnicity, propensity to spend & for what, and a variety of other factors. They're like a spotter checking out a mark before a grifter plays him for his weakest point. Certainly nothing to get excited about for black pride, except "we've got enough money for white people to want to steal it", rather than being so dirt poor no one will want to bother with you. And it certainly doesn't make blacks close to comparable with German consumption. But the Nielsen customers (marketers) are as much concerned with targeting blacks for bling and phones and household items and whatever.

Anyway, all this is useless - these are marketing industry figures pumped up like the endless Gartner reports about how mobile or cloud or IoT or security or whatever is the next big thing and how much it's supposed to grow and of course the results are never that rosy because of something called the "hype curve" which inevitably leads to the "trough of despair". Unfortunately blacks are pocketing this hype as something that means something, even while black household wealth remains pegged to the pitifully low line, which aside from income growth, job prospects and cost of living are about the only economic indicators worth caring about.

Do as I do, but not as I say.

Richard Day — Wed, 20 May 2015 05:17:09 +0000

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Do as I do, but not as I say.

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Why spend time on Billo?

This sombitch has gone on and on about how terrible Black culture is. Every damn day for twenty years and more.

I could point to rush or fox or whatever.

Nobody plays this song.

Because it is obvious, I guess.

I love your blog and all of your blogs.

But I have to play this here. It is about lost love and lost life and lost...

Except for you, of course.

Sigh, I pointed to Wattree's

rmrd0000 — Wed, 20 May 2015 04:48:19 +0000

In reply to Rmrd, Nielsen didn't provide

Sigh, I pointed to Wattree's source of the buying power numbers, Nielsen, and I gave a link noting the problems with using buying power, remember?

You might tell Nielsen that they don't collect Consumer Buying Power because they are selling the product on their website and discuss how they gather the data.

http://www.tetrad.com/demographics/usa/nielsen/

Follow the link and click on Consumer Buying Power Under "Available Data". You will be taken to their product, Nielsen Consumer Buying Power.

You are incorrect about Nielsen.