dagblog - Comments for "Dennis Hastert"

However inappropriate and

ocean-kat — Thu, 04 Jun 2015 08:16:06 +0000

In reply to Not sure where you got the

However inappropriate and criminal his actions with minors was, Hastert clearly feels desire for males. Hastert didn't just not support pro-gay legislation. He was vehemently antigay and very outspoken about it. That seems hypocritical to me.

God forgives Republicans for

NCD — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 14:31:36 +0000

In reply to Tax issues aren't included in

God forgives Republicans for failings in their personal lives.

God commands Republicans to wield His sharp sword of righteousness in governance, legislation and politics.

Hastert's past did not restrain him from meting out retribution onto liberals.

That is not hypocrisy Daggers, that is virtue, GOP style.

Yes, you're irrelevant and

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:47:46 +0000

In reply to Hastert doesn't mean a thing,

Yes, you're irrelevant and delirious, and I keep talking to you as well. Go figger - I do know how to waste my time.

Hastert doesn't mean a thing,

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:09:53 +0000

In reply to "Perhaps we can keep the

Hastert doesn't mean a thing, but here you are commenting. More humor.

"Perhaps we can keep the

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:55:27 +0000

In reply to Hastert does not live in

"Perhaps we can keep the discussion in the present." - the guy who wrote this diary brought up Socrates so I gave a brief note on pedophilia & Socrates' time. I would have left it as a URL, but you & Oceankat had to dig in. Perhaps you can go piss up a rope rather than tell me what to do. It's not like a discussion about an ex-politician over his ex-wrestling coach days means a damn thing anyway.

Hastert does not live in

rmrd0000 — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:29:39 +0000

In reply to Before parsing my words, *ALL

Hastert does not live in Ancient Greece, therefore the supplied information is not relevant. Additionally, Greek attitudes on pedophilia/ pederasty was not uniform. Even Plato went from accepting the practice to considering it unholy.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2007/nov/10/history.society

Perhaps we can keep the discussion in the present. Hastert seems to have abused the power he had as a wrestling coach and used his power as a legislator to suppress legislation aimed at protecting Gays.

Sure - I was thinking of

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:53:55 +0000

In reply to It's just a figure of speech,

Sure - I was thinking of strap-ons as well, but aside from sounding funny, doesn't make much sense ;-)

Before parsing my words, *ALL

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:50:09 +0000

In reply to Too funny, yes. But while he

Before parsing my words, *ALL* I know on this subject is contained in the link I provided,

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

so if that article is even true, and says it's a "norm" or "socially acknowledged" or "characteristic" or "the principal cultural model for free relationships between citizens", you'll have to take it up with the authors.

While pederasty seems to have developed in the 7th Century BC, "Greek myths provide more than fifty examples of young men who were the lovers of [male] gods."

Via the article, the Greek moral code looked down on sex-for-pay in prostitution or a "kept boy", and anal sex was also held in contempt (vs their typical "intercrural" or between the thighs). Some regions considered monogamy important; others did not.

Ages on vases is *estimated* at 12-18, but they don't list any evidence as to what acceptable ages would be, though "there were conventions of age pertaining to sexual activity, and if a man violated these by seducing a boy who was too young to consent to becoming an eromenos, the predator might be subject to prosecution", as "Athenian law, for instance, recognized consent but not age as a factor in regulating sexual behavior".

There you have it - different strokes for different folks.

It's just a figure of speech,

stillidealistic — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:26:14 +0000

In reply to Hastert was a wrestling coach

It's just a figure of speech, but don't most coaches wear street clothes?

Not sure where you got the

barefooted — Tue, 02 Jun 2015 23:51:22 +0000

In reply to Too often people are

Not sure where you got the impression that I'm defending anything.

I'm also not clear why a man who allegedly sexually abused a minor male student is a hypocrite for not supporting pro-gay legislation in Congress.