dagblog - Comments for "Woman in Colo Fired For Serving a First Grader Lunch" http://dagblog.com/link/woman-colo-fired-serving-first-grader-lunch-19617 Comments for "Woman in Colo Fired For Serving a First Grader Lunch" en It just depends on the http://dagblog.com/comment/208394#comment-208394 <a id="comment-208394"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208393#comment-208393">I&#039;ll admit to my ignorance on</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It just depends on the politics of the district and state.  The GOP wants public schools to be failures so they can have charter schools to skim money off the top. So much of this don't make very good sense.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 21:52:22 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 208394 at http://dagblog.com I'll admit to my ignorance on http://dagblog.com/comment/208393#comment-208393 <a id="comment-208393"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208379#comment-208379">Most schools have a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I'll admit to my ignorance on the topic and appreciate the lesson. Things have changed quite a bit since I was a kid.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 20:52:59 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 208393 at http://dagblog.com Exactly. They're kids, just http://dagblog.com/comment/208391#comment-208391 <a id="comment-208391"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208389#comment-208389">Baltimore Maryland has just</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Exactly. They're kids, just give them some food.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:42:41 +0000 ocean-kat comment 208391 at http://dagblog.com Baltimore Maryland has just http://dagblog.com/comment/208389#comment-208389 <a id="comment-208389"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208381#comment-208381">Dear Lord ... How do the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Baltimore Maryland has just started offering free school lunches for everyone.  That is the way it should be for all schools in this country.  Good nutrition should be part of education. The school lunch program should not be used as a whipping post.  </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:12 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 208389 at http://dagblog.com Dear Lord ... How do the http://dagblog.com/comment/208381#comment-208381 <a id="comment-208381"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208379#comment-208379">Most schools have a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Dear Lord ... How do the children learn responsibility and how to handle money if not through the lessons of carrying lunch money and paying for their lunches themselves?  Putting it all on the parent's heads makes kids dependent and has created a generation of Lazy Lunchers.  I think it's a safe bet to say that all Welfare Queens and Societal Slackers started out as Lazy Lunchers.   . </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:03:07 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 208381 at http://dagblog.com Most schools have a http://dagblog.com/comment/208379#comment-208379 <a id="comment-208379"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208377#comment-208377">Right. I&#039;m definitely not</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Most schools have a computerized school lunch payment system.  Parents pay in advance and a balance is kept.  Very few children take lunch money to school. In this area the child's ID that they wear around their neck is swiped into the computer at the register. If you get assisted lunch it will come up or if there is money in the child's account it will come up. You can go on line and pay it just like any other bill. Parents of children who bring their lunch are told to keep a small amount of money in an account in case the child ends up with out it. The suburban schools that don't make the kids wear their ID's keep them in a file and pull them to swipe into the system when the child is in line for lunch.</p> <p>The schools here do not have kitchens. Frozen dinners are delivered to the schools from a private food service and contract employees warm the meals up in portable warming ovens. The food is low quality and as the kids get older there isn't enough to eat. I live in Kochastand and they love sticking it to the poor kids on assisted lunch and let their brother-in-law make money from the program.  They claim it is cost effective but I am sure it is not.  </p> <p>There are rules about sharing and trading.  You cannot put a piece of candy in their lunches or canned soda.  They don't want anything that will spill so little fruit cups that are not in jello is discouraged.  They want you to use only juice packs that have straws or small bottled water.  They will actually take it away from the child and send a note home. </p> <p>I feed the kids breakfast before they leave the house even though they have free  breakfast and lunch. If they want to eat at school again when they get there they can.  I do this to make sure they have enough to eat to start the day.  There are days that lunch is so bad that they beg to take lunch.  I have never seen it this bad.  My own children were in school when I moved to Florida.  My oldest grand son who is an adult says they had better lunches then what is now being served and he was also on free lunch. </p> <p>You cannot send in home made cookies or cupcakes for parties. We are told they have to come to school in sealed bakery boxes.  I fake it. I go to Michaels' Crafts and buy bakery boxes.  My cup cakes are just as pretty as bakery ones.  I stick a white name tag on it to seal it and write a price with a magic marker on the box. It cost $24 dollars to buy the class room cup cakes.  I do it for $6.  This is a poor community so the kids don't see cup cakes often at school.  This is a state law that JEB signed. </p> <p>All this has trickled down from the ruling class of the John Birch Society. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 14:30:34 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 208379 at http://dagblog.com Right. I'm definitely not http://dagblog.com/comment/208377#comment-208377 <a id="comment-208377"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208376#comment-208376">I think it&#039;s interesting to</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Right. I'm definitely <em>not</em> assuming that the parents couldn't afford it in this case. However, if the child doesn't have the money, whether it's because the parents can't afford it, the child is frequently losing his money, the child is frequently having it taken away from him/her by bullies, or they gave it away for something else, shouldn't we address the deeper issue?</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:52:39 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 208377 at http://dagblog.com I think it's interesting to http://dagblog.com/comment/208376#comment-208376 <a id="comment-208376"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208375#comment-208375">I like Dick&#039;s suggestion</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think it's interesting to see how many people leap to the assumption that the child doesn't not have their lunch money because the parents are unable to afford it.  I tend to assume the explanation is usually more basic;  the kid lost it, had it taken from them by bullies or, without thinking of the consequences, foolishly and impulsively, gave it away to pay for something they wanted.   Why does the argument go to the unafford-ability issue and not the basic question of whether or not the child deserves to be treated with kindness, forgiveness and decency?   Whatever the reason for it, feed the child first; not a penalty meal, a regular meal.  Take care of the need, don't make excuses as to why not providing kindness is justified.  The lesson taught through kindness and compassion will have a much more positive and lasting impact</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:48:07 +0000 MrSmith1 comment 208376 at http://dagblog.com I like Dick's suggestion http://dagblog.com/comment/208375#comment-208375 <a id="comment-208375"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208371#comment-208371">VA, the parents may not</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I like Dick's suggestion above. I sympathize with your position, but if the parents are that overwhelmed, I think that having a counseling session with them is a better solution than just giving the child a free meal (not that I'm <em>against</em> giving the child a free meal).</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:22:34 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 208375 at http://dagblog.com If there are lunch issues, http://dagblog.com/comment/208374#comment-208374 <a id="comment-208374"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/208368#comment-208368">Look, if a child acts up he</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>If there are lunch issues, the school must demand a week's worth of lunch tickets or a month's worth or whatever.</p> </blockquote> <p>I like this approach, and I applaud the lunch lady for standing her ground and making people aware of the issue. </p> </div></div></div> Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:21:08 +0000 Verified Atheist comment 208374 at http://dagblog.com