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Totally agree. And regarding

Elusive Trope — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 16:15:07 +0000

Totally agree. And regarding the first part about white voter percentage that would be mean it's close race and anything like she's hiding some financial dealing is going to take her down a notch in the view of the voters in the primaries.

At the end of the day,

rmrd0000 — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:33:40 +0000

In reply to Remember, too, this is going

At the end of the day, Hillary will get about 40-45% of the white vote. Black voters will go for Hillary or any other Democratic nominee at the 90% or above level. The bulk of Latinos will go for the Democrat. Republicans have angered Blacks and Hispanics and will pay at the polls. The Presidential electoral map favors the Democrats.

Remember, too, this is going

Elusive Trope — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:49:01 +0000

In reply to But Obama's 2 book deals at

Remember, too, this is going to be a more populist primary - the war and Bush dominated the 2008, people figured once the economy got back on track they'd go back to making what they making and have all these benefits, now they're experiencing the reality of the new normal.

Both Sanders and Clinton are rich, but if her net worth and income is closer $25 million that puts her in "another league." Sanders can paint her as corporate puppet pandering to the unwashed masses.

The difference between the

Elusive Trope — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:39:38 +0000

In reply to But Obama's 2 book deals at

The difference between the Clintons and all the rest is that they've been dealing damage control on where they're money is going, how they made their back to Bill's day. Already there has been a spotlight shown on their money trail. If Clinton hems and haws now when asked what her truth worth is, each time people will be more and more convinced she and Bill are trying to hide shenanigans. The little yahoo digest of news that I get over my phone has even brought it up in one of their featured headlines. Heinz had a lot of money, but people didn't perceive them as being crooked. Perception is everything.

The backlash to the joke is

rmrd0000 — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:25:52 +0000

In reply to The only thing different is

The backlash to the joke is part and parcel of a movement. Chauvinists are going to have a harder time. A reviewer for a respected journal was removed after advising that two female scientists find a male co-author to make their paper more acceptable. The letter suggesting the male author addition was publicized and the journal ousted the chauvinist. Change is coming. The Nobel Prize winner is on the losing side in this battle.

http://news.sciencemag.org/scientific-community/2015/04/sexist-peer-revi...

But Obama's 2 book deals at

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 04:55:45 +0000

In reply to Say what you want about

But Obama's 2 book deals at what, $5mill?, were A-OK along with Michelle's sudden VP bonus. Our 2004 nominee was married to the Heinz fortune with his trial lawyer VP, and our 2000 nominee was a dynasty kid (son of a senator) whos now worth some $200 mill. Now we're going to play the poverty game with the Clintons again. Tell me how poor Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are, or the Kennedys, along with Soros who backed much of the progressive initiatives over the last 2 decades. But I guess the new black is Elizabeth Warren. Y'all keep searching for your poster child impoverished voice of the people - I'll just sit here and eat some nuts.

The only thing different is

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 04:44:43 +0000

In reply to The great thing about the

The only thing different is he was at a conference, and lately even geeks have had to clean up their sexist framing at the podium and they even have explicit rules. Back at the Institute? Not so much.

Say what you want about

Elusive Trope — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 04:43:21 +0000

In reply to 2008 Flame Wars Redux

Say what you want about classism being an issue, but this is not going to help Hillary [emphasis mine]. From The Hill

Hillary Clinton

Bill and Hillary Clinton earned about $30 million over the last 16 months, according to financial disclosures filed with election officials in May.

The bulk of the Clintons’ income came from speaking fees, many of which came at more than $200,000 a pop. The Clintons earned $5 million from Hillary’s Hard Choices book deal, and forms also note a bank account that contains between $5 million and $25 million.

Bill Clinton has been under pressure to stop giving paid speeches while his wife runs for president to avoid the appearance of impropriety. He has said if his wife is elected president, he’ll most likely

Bernie Sanders

Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders (I) had a minimum net worth of $175,786 in 2014, according to personal financial forms filed with the Senate.

In addition to that wealth, Sanders earns $174,000 a year as a senator.

He donated the speaking fees he accumulated last year, totaling less than $2,000, to charity.

Sanders is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination.

The great thing about the

rmrd0000 — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 01:46:18 +0000

In reply to Remind me to tell you the one

The great thing about the post Civil rights era, is tha I don't have to compensate. i can voice my objection. In thee good old days, a guy could show up in blackface and sing "Mammy". We can now have discussions about whether is 'black enough". We can argue if Tom Hank's son can say "nigger" or if Rachel Donazel has performed as a black leader. We can object to jokes considered sexist or racist.. Before white guys set the rules. They got to ridicule other ethnic groups and women. Times have changed. Andrew Dice Clay's style of comedy fell by the wayside.

I was speaking in broad

trkingmomoe — Tue, 16 Jun 2015 01:46:17 +0000

In reply to The Republicans are winning.

I was speaking in broad historical terms. The GOP knows their base is shrinking.