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I wouldn't say it drifted

ocean-kat — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 22:41:14 +0000

I wouldn't say it drifted in. If wattree hadn't claimed for the US the greatest evil in the history of the world award we wouldn't be having this conversation. I still might have pointed out some of the gross errors of historical fact, but not comparatively. We wouldn't be discussing which was worse.

No, of course not. Proceed

kyle flynn — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:40:34 +0000

In reply to Yeah, that's what he was

No, of course not. Proceed governor.

Yeah, that's what he was

Aaron Carine — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:36:04 +0000

In reply to "Worst Society Evvah!" is

Yeah, that's what he was getting at, but historical truth is not irrelevant. We couldn't let that hyperbolic statement stand.

"Worst Society Evvah!" is

kyle flynn — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:29:28 +0000

In reply to Since the argument is about

"Worst Society Evvah!" is certainly an argument that has drifted into the conversation, but I wouldn't say it is the argument. I thought the thrust of Wattree's post had more to do with how easily The Working Class in The United Stated is distracted and manipulated by the "Corporate Supremacists" from the real sources of the oppression they endure regardless of color, creed affiliation, etc. It's kinda ironic, no?

Again the choice in the form

rmrd0000 — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:23:20 +0000

In reply to Since the argument is about

Again the choice in the form of a question seems to be

Name the tragic events

A) The Holocaust

B) Slavery

C) Neither

D) Both

Answer: D

Or the question

Who was worse?

1) John Wayne Gacy

2) Jeffrey Dahmer

Answer: Gacy was a better painter

Since the argument is about

Aaron Carine — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:41:36 +0000

In reply to I think Wattree is thinking

Since the argument is about whether the U.S. is the worst society that has ever existed, I don't see how we have lost the argument if we demonstrate that there have been worse societies. There are plenty of options between "America is the incarnation of virtue and justice" and "America is the most evil entity that has ever existed".

I think Wattree is thinking

rmrd0000 — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:36:57 +0000

In reply to This isn't about easing

I think Wattree is thinking that if the argument is that at least the United States isn't as bad as Ancient Rome, the Nazis, etc., you've already lost the argument.

Bernie Sanders finally

rmrd0000 — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:26:49 +0000

In reply to You're absolutely right,

Bernie Sanders finally realizes that he has to make a direct outreach to minority voters. Right now 95% of Black could see voting for Hillary Clinton. Only 25% can see themselves voting for Bernie Sanders. This is mainly because Sanders is an unknown quantity for many blacks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/27/sanders-...

Hillary has already managed to upset some likely black voters. Sanders has an opening

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/24/hillary-clintons-...

Aaron Carine: But I doubt

kyle flynn — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:12:09 +0000

In reply to This isn't about easing

Aaron Carine: But I doubt any of this will make an impression on Wattree.

Wattree: You're absolutely right, Aaron.

You're absolutely right,

Wattree — Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:07:41 +0000

In reply to Nazi Germany, the Soviet

You're absolutely right, Aaron.
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I'm a former Marine myself, and believe it or not, I love this country, because I believe that the majority of the American people are good and decent people. But just as we're seeing today, the majority of the people have, and always have, allowed our political environment to be controlled by the most evil, greedy, and malevolent forces in our society.
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As I've pointed previously - and as I ALWAYS point out to Black people - this is not a "White supremacist" society, it's a "corporate supremacist" society. And the corporatists have a vested interest in keeping the majority of the people angry, hungry, and hating one another, in order to maintain their supremacy. So in order to snap out of that "Shining light on the hill" bullshit somnambulism that they have us drifting around in, we've got to open our eyes and see it what it really is, and what its done, in order to correct our course. After all, you can't cure a disease until you acknowledge it.
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And by the way, I've been referred to here as a leftist several times. I'm not leftist, right-wing, or centrist. I'm a rationalist. My position is to follow whatever course of action is in the best interest of the most number of people - and I'm against all "isms," I don't care what they are, because, by definition, they're all contrary to independent thought.