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Hope you enjoyed the Fourth

rmrd0000 — Mon, 06 Jul 2015 00:01:48 +0000

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Hope you enjoyed the Fourth

I also hope the new data provides some aid in tracing your roots.

Thanks for the link. My wife

Danny Cardwell — Sun, 05 Jul 2015 23:41:17 +0000

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Thanks for the link. My wife's family have close to 300 years worth of family lineage starting with a bill of sale record from Jamestown. Sadly, my family tree doesn't have roots that we've been able to keep up with past 150 years. I appreciate the time and effort you put into commenting. Salute!

It appears that Abraham

rmrd0000 — Sun, 05 Jul 2015 15:24:53 +0000

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It appears that Abraham Lincoln held Thomas Jefferson's moral character in very low regard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/04/opinion/what-did-lincoln-really-think-...

George Washington worked out

rmrd0000 — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 18:32:54 +0000

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George Washington worked out a scheme that allowed him to keep his slaves in bondage by getting around early abolition attempts in Pennsylvania. He also made great efforts to retrieve Ona Judge, a slave who escaped while the Washingtons were in Philadelphia.

Edit to add:

Thomas Jefferson had a slave mistress. He could be extremely cruel to his slaves. He relished selling slaves away from their families to exact punishment. We need to dea with the truth of the history of our country.

Jefferson, Madison, and

rmrd0000 — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 15:36:39 +0000

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Jefferson, Madison, and Washington may have been hypocrites, but I wonder if they might deserve some credit for opposing slavery in theory.

Answer: No.

George Washington and the colonists keep blacks who fought with them bound in slavery. The British at least kept a small portion of their promise of freedom for the slaves despite losing the war. Thomas Jefferson argued that slaves taken by the British should be considered as payment for part of the debt owe the British.

Was the United States founded

Aaron Carine — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 14:55:04 +0000

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Was the United States founded on Christian principles? I thought most of the Founding Fathers were secular humanist types.

Jefferson, Madison, and Washington may have been hypocrites, but I wonder if they might deserve some credit for opposing slavery in theory.

The intentions of the

moat — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 14:28:22 +0000

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The intentions of the Founders has been much debated here. I submit that a rational discussion of the matter is not possible without accepting that the separation between church and state was based upon a general acceptance at the time that combining the two institutions created an oxymoron with overwhelming power over the individual.
Is the elevation of that criteria regarding the power over an individual "Christian" pe se? Maybe, maybe not. Acres of books have been planted in the soil of that question. Fortunately for all of us, the rights developed through that criteria have not been dependent upon answering it.
And that independence is what I celebrate, knowing full well the hypocrisy and oppression that marched in the name of freedom alongside of it during the Revolution.

Doing genealogy studies will

rmrd0000 — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 03:13:13 +0000

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Doing genealogy studies will become slightly easier for black families as the record of four million former slaves obtained by the Freedman's Bureau after the Civil War will be digitized and available online. A barrier to tracing family roots has been lowered.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/19/slavery-records-sea...

I will have to more reading

rmrd0000 — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 02:49:01 +0000

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I will have to more reading about the Boston Tea Party.

I saw that paragraph, left

NCD — Sat, 04 Jul 2015 02:44:30 +0000

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I saw that paragraph, left out of the Declaration of Independence.

Why do Founding Fathers like Thomas Jefferson seem more and more like narcissistic self absorbed American hypocrites? Of which we are so replete today?

The paragraph in effect: "No complaints about slavery until Britain armed them to fight us property owners."

And the Boston Tea party? If you research it, it was about England REMOVING taxes due a glut of tea in England, which they needed to sell by removing high taxes, good for the consumer, bad for Boston tea bootleggers who got untaxed illegal tea from Dutch merchants.