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Hi,

sigh — Sat, 12 Nov 2016 16:11:53 +0000

In reply to The Search for Black Confederate Soldiers

Hi,

I've been doing research on my family for a little while, all lines lead to the South and slavery, most notably North Carolina. I recently made a discovery that one of my ancestry listed in the 1910 census that he was a survivor of the Confederate Army (listed as CA), I'd just never noticed it before. He was born in 1836 in N.C and had been a slave his entire life (I know which family owned him). After discovering this I looked into civil war records and found a record that appears to be of him, it shows that he was a part of the 42nd confederate company of NC and had been captured in Petersburg, VA (?) on Apr. 3rd 1865 and is on the prisoners of war rolls for Harts Island NY where he is described as having dark complexion, dark hair and dark eyes. He was released on June 19, 1865. In 1870 he is in S.C.

I of course had read that the south was gearing up to start arming slaves but that the war ended before it could become in effect. I now have to do a lot of research in this area, it's very unexpected. If anyone is interested I can send you some records (1910 census, civil war record). Thanks.

My solemn word that tomorrow

Aaron Carine — Mon, 31 Aug 2015 22:42:22 +0000

In reply to The Search for Black Confederate Soldiers

My solemn word that tomorrow I will finally provide some data that seems credible. It's all from one book, which may demonstrate that there isn't a lot of material on this.

We have allowed a false

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:52:28 +0000

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We have allowed a false history of the Civil a War to be told about the South for a over century. The idea was to bring the country back together. That effort resulted in false memories like black Confederates. The history of massacres of black troops like at Fort Pillow was buried. There were black slaves who carried arms for the North. There is no documentation of black brigades fighting for the South. There were Southern whites who fought bravely for the Union. There are real stories to be told. We can put away the myth of the "non be" slave willing to die for 'Massa. The are documented stories of slaves trying to kill the evil slave-owners by revolting against bondage.

"What is interesting is that

NCD — Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:34:56 +0000

In reply to Here is an analysis of Mr

"What is interesting is that Jordan fails to include one example of an actual (black) soldier."

From what I have read, when Sherman marched thru Georgia, the Confederate leadership was in Milledgeville haggling over how to lower their personal taxes (used to support the war), while the wives and the slaves were left behind by the southern 'gentlemen' to confront Sherman at the various plantations.

The wives would watch the Union troops with scorn as the slaves showed the boys in blue where all the valuables had been buried

To Sherman's irritation at the delays and logistical problems it created (he had been ordered to allow it) huge groups of slaves would pack up and follow him and his army on the march, heading under his protection for freedom.

Here is an analysis of Mr

rmrd0000 — Wed, 22 Jul 2015 03:02:25 +0000

In reply to I may have finally found

Here is an analysis of Mr Jordan's book along with a picture.

Part 1

http://cwmemory.com/2011/03/03/ervin-jordans-black-confederates/

Part 2

http://cwmemory.com/2011/03/06/ervin-jordans-black-confederates-part-2/

Good luck in your search

I may have finally found

Aaron Carine — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:28:08 +0000

In reply to The Search for Black Confederate Soldiers

I may have finally found something substantial: Ervin L. Jordan's book Black Confederates and Afro-Yankees in Civil War Virginia. Jordan at least cites some documents, although a lot of his evidence consists of witness statements. I'm still working on it; I need to read the review of Jordan's book in Civil War History.

The other point is that

rmrd0000 — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 20:21:17 +0000

In reply to That the slaves were sold by

The other point is that blacks are not praising the black slavers as heroes. Benin, Ghana, and Nigeria have acknowledged their roles in the slave trade and apologized. We do not honor blacks who sold slaves, they are reviled. The paltry number of black slave owners pales in comparison to the thousands of blacks who fought for freedom by mutinies on slave ships like the Amistad and rebellions on the ground like that of Denmark Vesey.

Black Confederates are part of a diversion and shaming attempt by Confederate apologists. Blacks are to blame for being enslaved is the desired message. Enslaved black fiercely fought for the South. It is ridiculous. This weekend we will see the KKK come to defend the Confederate flag in Columbia South Carolina. That image speaks volumes

That the slaves were sold by

Aaron Carine — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 19:52:31 +0000

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That the slaves were sold by other Africans means that there was some shared responsibility--but there wasn't an equivalence.

There were both white and black slavers, but the victims were all black. The scale of the slave trade was determined by the white buyers. The Europeans made great fortunes, but all Africa got out of the trade was ruin.

There is an upcoming book

rmrd0000 — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 14:46:24 +0000

In reply to The reason why I have been

There is an upcoming book about life in Antebellum Charleston, "Our Man in Charleston: Britain's Secret Agent in the Civil War South", told from the perspective of a British spy sent to observe life in the South. The spy was horrified by by the casual pleasure Southerners took in torturing slaves. The spy also noted that Southern smugglers were defying federal law by continuing to bring slaves from Africa. The Southern elite wanted to rescind the ban on the Transcontinental slave trade.

Instead of facing the horrors of Antebellum life for the slaves, Confederacy apologists attempt diversions like mythical black Confederates.

The reason why I have been

rmrd0000 — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 01:34:48 +0000

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The reason why I have been hard-nosed on this issue is that we have had 150 years of a Southern lies about the reason for the Civil War and the reason why the Confederate flags flew over state Capitols in the 1960's. When blacks tak about the residuals of slavery, we are told to shut up and move on. Yet when it comes to the Confederacy, we are supposed to continually the memory, addition blacks are told that they are to be ashamed because they were sold into slavery by other blacks. They are also told that blacks owned slaves. Finally they are told that blacks were so pliable that thousands fought for the Confederacy.

Enough is enough. There is no reason to feel shame because black heathens sold innocent blacks sold black slaves to white Christians or Diests.there is no reason to be ashamed that opportunistic blacks bought slaves. The idea that a significant number of blacks would rush to die to support the system of slavery is a lie.