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Thanks for responding, NCD.

Oxy Mora — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 19:37:26 +0000

Thanks for responding, NCD. In all honesty, I think it's a preposterous claim that these two are heads-up gamers who had any such long game in mind.

I think you are taking it

NCD — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:41:02 +0000

In reply to Those who doubted the

I think you are taking it from your personal perspective. Which is fine.

Varoufakis likely the same, and he would also love your apparent satisfactions at the disruptions to European unity it all created.

However, the uncertainties, mental and financial costs, and hopelessness this whole thing thrust onto the people of Greece, from business persons to pensioners, has been enormous, and for what?

To stoke a conflict on who is going to 'run the Euro Zone'?

They had half a dozen wars to decide that and no one still knows who runs Europe. It's one reason the US started NATO to create some unity.

You think the average Greek gives a crap about the politics of it all? They want jobs, better lives for their kids and true national stability.

I give credit to Tsipras as I believe he acted in the end to help Greece in the only way he believed still open to him, backing down and taking a lot of shots from his own Party. He bit off more than he could chew, and unfortunately had no better plan as back up.

The question, is, how is this latest European brouhaha going to work out not only for Greece, but for Europe. Conflict? More unity or more divisiveness?

And will it make for a better future for the Greeks? As they try to lead their lives, work and raise families? At this point no one knows.

Those who doubted the

Oxy Mora — Thu, 16 Jul 2015 15:40:46 +0000

In reply to Greece and a global anti-austerity movement.

Those who doubted the prescience of Messrs Varoufakis &Tsipris should access the heavily memed article at AOL Worldpost by Elias Kukukundis---and I know there are those among us who have described Tsipras as hapless, even using such examples of serendipitous smelling like-a-rose analogies as--for example, Gomer Pyle and Inspector Clouseau. I myself nearly succumbed to their constant meme of Tsipras Ineptitude leads to Greek disaster.

In fact Varoufakis (and we can assume Tsipras)---who by the way proves that one can exit a virtually unknown career as a Professor at a regional Texas University and become, with no prior experience, a player upon the world stage---he, Varoufakis, had the entire, quite unique scenario gamed out---that is, to be so vociferous and confrontational as to dissolve the entire Greek crisis, finally, into it's real nature---the conflict between France and Germany over who is going to run the Euro Zone. Varoufakis has some kind of something going on upstairs.

My theme: Lets you and him fight and then give me the fucking money.

The vote is 229 Nais. 60 odd

Oxy Mora — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 23:33:19 +0000

In reply to They do? Who says so HAHAHAHA

The vote is 229 Nais. 60 odd Oxi.

So the bailout package has passed. But Tsip has lost a big chunk of his party.

We will fight them in the traunches, we will fight them in the fields and city squares,.....

lagarda vous, eu

They do? Who says so HAHAHAHA

NCD — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:36:15 +0000

In reply to Tsipras is addressing the

They do? Who says so HAHAHAHA. Tsipras?

He fought but then got his ass handed to him and surrendered.

Surrendering preemptively might have been better for his country. Or having an actual plan to do something else.

Tsipras is addressing the

Oxy Mora — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 22:03:24 +0000

In reply to Greece and a global anti-austerity movement.

Tsipras is addressing the Greek Parliament:

"The old policies are over. The people appreciate the difference between those who fight against unfairness, and those who surrender."

I see the resemblance.

Oxy Mora — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:21:18 +0000

In reply to 'Greek' 'industrail action'

I see the resemblance.

Or it could be asking for the next bailout after this bailout.

'Greek' 'industrail action'

NCD — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:48:42 +0000

In reply to A lot of folks in Greece are

'Greek' 'industrial action' (strikes) next if Tsipras gets the vote thru.

Taking 'em out - Peter Sellers, from 'All Right Jack'.

Lennie Bruce?

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 15:01:19 +0000

In reply to Chauncy, yes I get that. Or

Lennie Bruce?

I like the drunk analogy.

Oxy Mora — Wed, 15 Jul 2015 14:18:58 +0000

In reply to I wouldn't be surprised if

I like the drunk analogy.

I'd like to believe it, but I really don't see how the oligarchs get a haircut except perhaps in the bank restructuring. Certainly the increased taxes won't make a dent---except that perhaps now they will actually have to pay their taxes.

Oligarchs seem to win in privatization---which I assume will only work if the assets are sufficiently undervalued.