dagblog - Comments for ""Onward, Christian Soldiers". Not just a hymn anymore."

Yeah, it was.

Ramona — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 02:04:40 +0000

Yeah, it was.

I'll add that many on the

ocean-kat — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 02:00:08 +0000

In reply to Since, by your authority, I'm

I'll add that many on the Christian right believe a married women must submit to her husband even to the point of having no right to refuse sex. It wasn't until a couple of years ago the the Mormon church decided that blacks weren't inferior to whites as had been it's doctrine since it's beginning. It wasn't until about 1980 that Mormons lifted it's ban on black priests.

I mostly agree with you though the statement was slightly exaggerated.

Since, by your authority, I'm

Ramona — Tue, 14 Jul 2015 00:19:43 +0000

In reply to I don't think I have to.

Since, by your authority, I'm obliged to back up a single sentence in all that I said about the "Christian Right" (in quotes because, you know. . .), I'll say this: When, as a body, the "Christian Right" decides to fight tooth and nail against free birth control and a woman's right to choose whether or not to carry a fetus to term I would say they have decided that women have no rights.

I believe that for every drop

Richard Day — Mon, 13 Jul 2015 23:28:43 +0000

In reply to "Onward, Christian Soldiers". Not just a hymn anymore.

I believe that for every drop of rain that falls...

A flower grows?

What?

Love and peace and brotherhood (I guess nowadays Sisterhood) but drop the hoods for chrissakes!

Except those who disallow my Savior (5/7 of humanity)

WE MUST DEMOLISH THE REST OF COURSE.

HAHAHAHAH

Boy this flower blows. hahhaha

I dunno

How about this to cheer us all up?

the end

As an ordained officer in the

Danny Cardwell — Mon, 13 Jul 2015 03:45:15 +0000

In reply to "Onward, Christian Soldiers". Not just a hymn anymore.

As an ordained officer in the church, I want you to know the far right scares me as well.

Your challenge is fair. You

moat — Sun, 12 Jul 2015 23:25:03 +0000

In reply to I don't think I have to.

Your challenge is fair. You surely don't have to answer mine.

It is difficult to answer your challenge. I could link to Pat Buchanan quotes I guess. But the real action is in the coded language. The conservative Christian Right is not an ideology formatted by a nut job in prison but a culture of references that doesn't say out loud all that it thinks, and has not been doing that for quite a while now.

My knowledge of that culture is not through any great familiarity with the people who pander to it but through experiences spent with people who believe what they believe. And they are convinced that there is a form of life hell bent on taking away theirs.

There is a fire there. I don't know how much it can burn.

I'm not Christian, but

Elusive Trope — Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:45:08 +0000

In reply to People of the books will

I'm not Christian, but everyone has their own paradigm. Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr was as his title indicates a Christian revered. I know a person with a doctorate in physics and somehow believes the world was created 6,000 years ago. Stalin was not particularly religious, but he slaughtered millions of his own people. I was one lived next door in a tri-plex to a Catholic nun who spent most of her time in Central America assisting the oppressed without pushing her own religious views on them.

All people look for and embrace some channel(s) to the truth to inform their paradigm. Christians are no different. They happen to be the dominant ones in this country.

I don't think I have to.

Aaron Carine — Sun, 12 Jul 2015 10:37:52 +0000

In reply to Can you quote a member of the

I don't think I have to. Ramona made an assertion about what the Christian right is saying; she is obliged to back it up. I haven't made an assertion about what the Christian right is saying(I don't really know what they are saying). By the way, she didn't accuse them of saying that women don't have equal rights; she holds that they say women have NO rights.

People of the books will

ocean-kat — Sun, 12 Jul 2015 05:59:09 +0000

In reply to I don't know but somehow this

People of the books will always pick and choose when they are forced to, when they lose. I'm sure if gay marriage wins decisively most Christians will eventually come to some accommodation with that reality. As one who does not follow any of the books I don't know what form that accommodation will take. Perhaps that accommodation will be an acceptance of homosexuality as a sin like adultery, wrong but forgivable, not overly stressed.

Or they may decide, as they did with slavery or witch burning, to totally ignore those parts of the book discussing it with out every admitting that those parts of the book were wrong. I wouldn't even be surprised to see in a hundred years christians pointing at some christian group today that accepts homosexuality, as evidence that it was they, the christians, that brought about gay marriage as their christian duty. Just as after millennia of supporting and justifying slavery with their book they point to some christian abolitionists at the end and claim to be the ones that ended it.

As one who looks in from the outside one can only hope most Christians can quickly come up with a story that convinces them that this new reality was actually the way god really wanted it all along.

I don't know but somehow this

Elusive Trope — Sun, 12 Jul 2015 03:55:27 +0000

In reply to "Onward, Christian Soldiers". Not just a hymn anymore.

I don't know but somehow this seems relevant, one Christian who had a good epiphany about what it really means to be a Christian.