dagblog - Comments for "Citizen Vain: or, Trump the Narcissist"

They were not rhetorical

moat — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:19:09 +0000

In reply to I am not sure I understand

They were not rhetorical questions.
I wasn't looking at the trump eruption as a matter of defending the man McCain. On the contrary. If Trump happened to be at a party I was attending and offered this opinion, I would agree that the McCain was milking his POW cow for all that it is worth.

But the way Trump put it into the public discussion is the same crap that was used when the GOP swift-boated Kerry.

Yes, last in his class

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:55:02 +0000

In reply to I am not sure I understand

Yes, last in his class spoiled brat, son of Admiral, but was still putting his balls on the line flying sorties. A hero? Maybe not. Courageous I would give him. Trump? Loudmouth fucktard. YMMV

I should have added that

A Guy Called LULU — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 20:57:12 +0000

In reply to I am not sure I understand

I should have added that except for the small part of this blog that I ranted on, I thought it and the resulting exchanges were quite good.

JEB was my governor for 8

trkingmomoe — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:39:04 +0000

In reply to Perhaps. Walker is such a

JEB was my governor for 8 years and Texas really got the smart one. He is also a light weight.

I am not sure I understand

A Guy Called LULU — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:15:55 +0000

In reply to Who can testify regarding

I am not sure I understand what you are asking, are they rhetorical questions? I say that any person can claim whatever they believe about themselves but enough is known about McCain to judge that his opinions should not be given the gloss of coming from a hero. Calling him a hero for the purpose of discrediting someone else is an obvious mistake IMO. I agree with [I think] everybody here that Trump has close to zero chance of becoming our next President. There is enough known about Trump that it is unnecessary and I believe unhelpful to have knee-jerk reactions to a statement that he made which is so ambiguous that its intent can be taken several ways, one of which is correct. Burnishing McCain’s status with completely undeserved praise of a nature that our culture sucks up like cool-aid improves his chances to remain in a powerful position and also helps gloss over some of the ugliness of some of our county’s ugly war history. It gets me into rant mode.

Who can testify regarding

moat — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:59:25 +0000

In reply to Can we please stop the

Who can testify regarding what McCain's experiences gives him a right to claim for himself? How does disqualifying him to speak upon certain matters advance other discussions?

If the Trump challenge was something like that, it could get interesting.

Can we please stop the

A Guy Called LULU — Tue, 21 Jul 2015 00:36:29 +0000

In reply to Citizen Vain: or, Trump the Narcissist

Can we please stop the misguided glorification of McCain which is a byproduct of a misguided way of pointing out what a waste of skin Trump is. Surely Trump can be seen to stand on his own as the perversion of any semblance of a rational thinker/actor on issues of importance to humanity without raising another psycho-clown in stature just because that clown has some misplaced stature, in the eyes of many, that Trump has attacked. Before any more continuance of using McCain’s alleged heroism as a starting point to attack Trump’s charge, would someone who makes that starting point a place to jump from give one example of a heroic act that John McCain ever did. Just one would do. Just one, ever. One time. One example that does not denigrate the perceived essence of the very idea of heroism.

In referencing bellow the following article I do not give any special credence to the psychiatric credentials of one of the critics of McCain, I merely call out the common sense of his analysis that should be apparent to anyone who has been paying attention to McCain since his promotion to a major spokesman for the kill-kill boys who know no other solution and do not even attempt to imagine one.

McCain is one great example of one great fault of humanity in its current state of evolution. Another symbiotic example is the following that his stupid bullshit attitudes and intentions creates among people we should really be able to count on to know better.

The Horrors of John McCain: War Hero or War Criminal?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/20/the-horrors-of-john-mccain-war-he...

Yes, yes, yes. The longer

Doctor Cleveland — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 20:30:47 +0000

In reply to I think your Pop-Psychology

Yes, yes, yes. The longer Trump sticks around, the better.

I would be very happy if he ran as a third-party candidate after quitting the primaries. But I can only wish for that because Trump getting the nomination is too much to hope for.

Trump would not only get destroyed in a general election, but badly depress Republican turnout nationwide.

I think your Pop-Psychology

ocean-kat — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:55:04 +0000

In reply to Seeing so many folks

I think your Pop-Psychology analysis that democrats are showing "true fear" of Trump is way off. I don't think any democrat thinks Trump has a chance of winning the republican nomination. Much as I deride the republicans I don''t think there are enough racists and fools even in the republican party to give the nomination to Trump. If he were to win the nomination I don't think any democrat thinks he'll have a chance in the general. I could be wrong about Trump's chances but I don't think I'm wrong about democrats total lack of fear of Trump.

My main worry is that he will implode and withdraw before the primary debates. Democrats want him on the debate stage because we think all the republicans up there will be covered in the mud he throws.

Yes. I've read about studies

Doctor Cleveland — Mon, 20 Jul 2015 18:21:13 +0000

In reply to The thing about narcissism is

Yes. I've read about studies that suggest that clinical narcissists are over-represented among CEOS; they charm boards with their exciting vision, blah blah blah, and once the CEO has sold himself to the Board, that becomes his focus.

The story about Trump lobbying Forbes for higher placement on the 500 list is priceless. It goes both to my point about his potential NPD, and his behavior being unlike other rich people's. The last thing Trump wants is wealth outside the public eye. (I also love the story about Buffett saying Forbes would never find a bunch of billionaires.)

But to your larger point: narcissism and severe class inequality can interact in very, very ugly ways. And a rich enough narcissist will always be protected from the consequences of his actions, and wealthy narcissists can promote a class narcissism of contempt for everyone else.