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We're shutting down the

Michael Wolraich — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:29:00 +0000

In reply to Blacks and the Swimming Myth

We're shutting down the comments. Enough. Rmrd, this is a ToS warning. The next time you pick a personal fight with PP, it will mean a suspension.

Peracles, there have been

rmrd0000 — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:53:22 +0000

In reply to You continue to embarrass

Peracles, there have been barriers to swimming for blacks in the U.S. Lack of swimming pools in urban areas is a large factor.

Black participation in baseball has declined. MLB focuses current recruiting on college campuses. Two-percent of college baseball players are black, the number of professional black baseball players decreased by half. To increase black participation, MLB will have to look elsewhere for black players. Blacks did not have a sudden physiologic change that makes them incapable of playing baseball.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/10787176/mlb-blacks-losing-numbers-game

Black swimmers will increase as more have access to pools

You continue to embarrass

rmrd0000 — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:09:08 +0000

In reply to They are all nice touches.

You continue to embarrass yourself. The Ape index has had mixed results when applied to actual sports activities. Whether a given study will show that the Ape Index has significance is like a coin flip. One study will show a positive influence, the next will show no effect,

The buoyancy study is a single study. The authors point out that sociological studies would produce real science. Most scientific studies actually end end up having zero impact on actually advancing science. Many results can't be reproduced, like the Ape Index. Many trace a marker that has no real clinical impact. C-reactive protein is a marker of inflammation. There is an inflammatory component to coronary artery disease. Use a drug to decrease CRP levels and you have some studies that decrease the risk of blocked coronary vessels others show no impact. Similar finding for apo-lipoprotein, You need reproducibility to demonstrate that a drug or other therapy actually has a positive effect on the majority of patients.

You have no scientific background. You repeated select single studies and quote them as scientific gospel. Your bias you to reject other explanations for a finding including that it was a fluke. You made the race- based pleas for attention with your hashtag crap. You thought that a black guy participating in a study that you extrapolated to mean that all blacks can swim would give me goosebumps. You have a bias when it comes to issues of race, you keep verifying that fact.

There are now Olympic level black swimmers.non-buoyant blacks exposed to swimming are setting records.There are ongoing efforts to overcome historical reasons for blacks not knowing how to swim. This has been going on for years.

You cannot internalize new information. You were told about the scientific method and the hierarchy of study types required to be considered truly acceptable. You were too busy watching a racist TV show to try to improve. Thus here we are with you clinging to faulty data in one case and data that does not prove that blacks cannot become championship swimmers in the other. Your TV viewing has you rejecting the presence of black swimmers.

I'm not the one looking for eugenics, you are. I'm not the one rejecting societal impact on why blacks have a low percentage of swimmers, you are. You even gloss over what the authors of your buoyancy paper actually said about societal issues and race as a societal construct.

I know who you are and what you are.

" I put black buoyancy out

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 08:35:53 +0000

In reply to Yawn.You seem to be betraying

" I put black buoyancy out there especially for you...The only people who would expect goosebumps are those with white sheets and hoods in their closets,..." - different kind of ribbing, but we've both been taken down a peg by the local übermenschen. The pain, it burns...

Maybe we can skip off together to work on our "flaws".

Yawn.You seem to be betraying

barefooted — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 07:29:59 +0000

In reply to By the way, fuck you, you

Yawn.

"You seem to be betraying the assumption that I think like you and share the flaws in your character."

"So all of the dark recesses in the caverns of your mind are your own, and you need to work on them."

Mr. Wattree paid attention to me - rmrd barely noticed you.

By the way, fuck you, you

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 06:42:01 +0000

In reply to See ocean-Kay's commentary

Thanks for the KKK and Rush Limbaugh insults - I of course realize this was the only reason you posted this diary was to find a chance to call me a racist, and you and your Blomance buddy must be having quite the laugh. But more significant is it helps me cut my addiction to discussing things with absolutely no importance. Perhaps using my 12-step program analogy I really have hit bottom, and you in your peculiar way have driven that point home. Maybe it will stick this time. Best of luck.

They are all nice touches.

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 05:13:34 +0000

In reply to The Ape Index was a nice

They are all nice touches -even with the Ape Index there are common terms they don't switch just because of your ethnic group - that's not racism, it's colorblind science (we're all descended from Apes, no? at least that supremacist Darwin said so). There are scientists - including black ones - studying sports performance to see how body types and other factors affect, and in the case of swimming where blacks are underrepresented they're also looking at social/cultural factors. In the end there may or may not be any significant physical differences in the equations - like I should give a shit whether blacks or Peruvians or Eskimos can swim - but you present this as some kind of racism to even toss out a theory. Sports are a multi-trillion dollar business - they're putting wireless sensors on athletes to assess every technique and physiological aspect ofbwhat they do - it's how we squeeze every extra microsecond out of performance. You act like it's eugenics.

BTW, Jamaicans and folks from

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 05:10:24 +0000

In reply to See ocean-Kay's commentary

BTW, Jamaicans and folks from Trinidad, Bahamas, Bermuda, et al have easy access to water and many are gifted runners - there is no big racism these days limiting their swimming opportunities, and I doubt they're worried about their hair. If they wanted to and/or could they would be leading Olympics swimmers. They're not. Nature or nurture or both? Who knows, who really cares. Hindus aren't leading the pack either and they have a whole ocean to work with. One of life's little mysteries.

But Ocean, I wonder which

Richard Day — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:22:50 +0000

In reply to he shows me a video of a

But Ocean, I wonder which witch?

I am so confused.

But then again, I am always confused.

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Richard Day — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 03:20:44 +0000

In reply to Lol. We do?

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