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As Colbert said in his 'roast

NCD — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:07:58 +0000

As Colbert said in his 'roast' of George W at the DC correspondents dinner in I think 2004.....our news media performs like stenographers...... they take as gospel that neither politicians nor police ever lie How anyone cures that obsequious trait of the corporate media I have no idea. One thing to do is turn off the 24/7 TV news and ignore the pundits. Get the facts from news sources on the scene.

I think the reason

rmrd0000 — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 16:43:52 +0000

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I think the reason BlackLivesMatter disrupted Netroots Nation is that they know that no one will be held responsible for the death of Sandra Bland. The worse that may happen is that a police officer is fired and left free to be a law enforcement officer in another department.

Harvard Professor Gates was arrested for breaking into his own house

Trayvon Martin was killed by a sociopath

Jordan Davis was killed for playing music too loud. His murderer was not convicted for the homicide, but because he fired at fleeing teens

Eric Garner was choked on camera

If there had been no video of the cop shooting a man in the back in North Charleston, the homicide would have gone unpunished. Fellow officers backed up the lies he put in his report.

BLM knows that we are just going through the motions with ~~Susan~~ Sandra Bland. The fix is already in. BLM knows that Sanders economic plan will not change police behavior.

Thanks for commenting and for

NCD — Sat, 25 Jul 2015 04:33:03 +0000

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Thanks for commenting and for the links.

The way the arresting cop behaved towards Ms. Bland one would pretty well assume Waller County is replete with racist a**holes and idiots devoid of any common decency, and in positions of authority to boot.

Media handling of this is disappointing (am I surprised? no) considering that:

1) Sandra self reported on the arrest video and the booking that she had epilepsy.

2) Stress is known to increase attacks of it

3) Attacks can be fatal. If I put 'epilepsy, sudden death' into Google I get a slew of articles on that fatal condition. See lead post link on SUDEP,

Yet I have heard not one media comment or article:

(1) expressing even an iota of doubt on the veracity of the prison 'suicide by bag liner' report, issued 27 hours after her death.

(2) suggesting some faint implication that SUDEP could be the real cause of her demise.

Particularly with all the odd circumstances in the prison as noted in this post and by Charles Blow at the NYT link.

The 'death by bag liner around the neck strangulation' being an unheard of method of suicide. And the usual sheets or clothing were available to perform the act in the traditional fashion. (see hypothesis above on 'why the bag liner').

Just to add to the discussion

oldenGoldenDecoy — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:50:58 +0000

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Just to add to the discussion . . .

Friday, July 24, 2015 Democracy Now! (FULL SHOW)

Sandra Bland’s Sister Responds to Suicide Allegations
Lawyer Says Waller County Withholding Details3

This is a snippet of Amy speaking to the Bland family attorney and placing some bright light on the Waller County DA...

AMY GOODMAN: I want to ask about the Waller County DA. In 2014, Elton Mathis, the DA, was accused of sending threatening text messages after an African-American clergyman asked Waller County to provide data on prosecution rates by ethnicity.

Reverend Walter Pendleton says after he accused DA Mathis of selectively prosecuting minorities, Mathis texted him with threats. Mathis reportedly told him, quote, "You are too stupid to know what that word means."

The prosecutor cited examples of white public officials he had prosecuted, and then he texted, quote, "My hounds ain’t even started yet dumb ass. ... When I talk people [will] listen. Keep talking and I will sue your ass for slander."

Now, I am saying these words because they are the text, and this was reported in the Houston Chronicle, of the DA that we’re talking about today, in response to a prominent local reverend who was concerned about selective prosecution by ethnicity. Cannon Lambert, can you respond?

---end snippet---

There is quite a bit more in the video and entire transcript that is a real eye opener...

See video and read more here-->3

~OGD~

Being distraught is exactly

NCD — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:25:58 +0000

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Being distraught is exactly what can lead to a seizure, and precipitate sudden unexpected death in epilepsy.

Agree on murder by cop.

NCD — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 21:23:06 +0000

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Agree on murder by cop.

Although reporting the death as suicide takes the focus off the arrest and the cops and puts the onus of her final fate onto her. 'Yes, the arrest was overly aggressive. But..... it was legal. Unfortunately she was a weak suicidal woman who then killed herself".

Which - along with the multitude of reasons above - is why the first suicide in history by can liner.....and that novel act by a 6 ft woman on a 5 foot partition.......is just another protect-the-cops fairy tale.

"Billie Bob, take one of those big waste cans from the officers lounge and put it in there for the TV cameras, make sure a can liner is in it"

If it was suicide, and it

A Guy Called LULU — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 20:31:20 +0000

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If it was suicide, and it probably was, then depression and a feeling of hopelessness were likely involved. I think that there are hints that she may have had trouble raising bail and that after three days may have felt abandoned and friendless. Total speculation but that might have been the final straw after the psychic load that had been dumped on her by the nature of the arrest and confinement.

In a voicemail released by police Bland said in a message to a friend, “I’m still just at a loss for words with this whole process, how switching lanes with no signal turned into all of this, I don’t even know. But I’m still here, so, I guess call me back when you can.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/listen-sandra-bland-left-voicemail-on-fri...

Another inmates report of what she knew.

http://abc7chicago.com/news/sandra-bland-distraught-neighboring-inmate-s...

This was murder by cop, it's

Michael Maiello — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:45:45 +0000

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This was murder by cop, it's as simple as that. She was under stress because she was pulled over for no real reason. She was then assaulted. She was then confined to a cell for three days, again for no reason. Whether she was highly stressed, epileptic or just depressed and confused, she died because a cop picked her out of her daily life and abused her.

This one is from the LA Times

NCD — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:44:13 +0000

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This one is from the LA Times. Note the prominent position of the huge waste can and the rushed unprofessional placement of the can liner. If she used a can liner, shouldn't this bin be empty, and the liner checked for fingerprints?

BTW why a can liner?

Wouldn't the bed sheet or a torn piece of inmate clothing work better?

Oh but of course, the EMT's, others, too many saw the victim and the scene, a pant leg couldn't be torn off later, too many had seen her and the cell.

So what to use as the 'rope'? A disposable can liner?

Looks similar to the others, with a better view of the 'privacy partition' which if you are on the toilet side, I don't think anyone could tell if you were alive or dead from the cell door peep hole.

Unless the family can get a very good non-Texas non-cop connected forensic pathologist to examine the body (if not too late) with the differential diagnosis including the prison lied about the plastic bag and she MAY HAVE died of an epileptic attack and SUDEP. -(leaves no trace in autopsy see SUDEP link)

OR agreeing that she did hang herself determined by examination of the supposed marks on her neck occurring prior to and being the cause of death (if faked after death this is often detectable).

Unless that happens, I would say cops or prisons presenting testimony and conclusions about circumstances surrounding the death of a person in their custody, especially if black, cannot be trusted

NCD, there is a third version

Oxy Mora — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:37:59 +0000

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NCD, there is a third version of the jail cell scene in the AP photo shown by the LA Times.

Interesting segment on Lawrence O'Donnel, DA wants her body (already released and sent to Chicago) preserved for future investigation.