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You have a bizarre notion of

ocean-kat — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 23:24:33 +0000

In reply to This is not as simple as it

You have a bizarre notion of what constitutes coercion. They also asked me if I wanted a free phone. You know, the Reagan era program that the right wing decided to call an Obama phone. I refused that as well. Horrors, more coercion.

Many people don't even know

trkingmomoe — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:21:11 +0000

In reply to President Obama's Letter To The Editor

Many people don't even know when they are being manipulated and even if it is for a good cause it is still manipulation not choice. We still have the freedom and right to reject voting in a corrupt system although with declining voting some people would force compliance which is tyranny.

So your nickers are in a knot because we have Democratic candidates addressing voter suppression with the solutions that might make voting mandatory. It isn't the question being asked if you want to register to vote when you are petitioning social services for assistance that is a major tyranny that should have everyone up in arms? Is this more important than voter suppression? But your problem is that you find the government corrupt and unworthy of your vote and you don't want to be made to participate in the process.

I find it insulting that poverty is used to make a point or an excuse for political hate. I don't know what world you live in but mine is full of poverty. In this world I find the people intelligent, hard working full of love of community and family also very generous to others. They are some of the most resourcefully and courageous people I have ever known. Checking off a box or signing a form about whether you wish to register vote is not a major issue that can make or break ones daily survival. Your priority of being able to choose not to vote is the least of our problems and not even on our radar. We are the ones who live with voter suppression and are please to hear it being addressed in this election. Don't try to even make a case of why some of us didn't vote because we didn't like the politicians that were running because in this neighborhood that was not the reason. They moved our voting place to the suburbs, they created expensive ID laws and they purged some of us off the roles because of our last names.

That dear friend is real world of the poor.

Peter , regarding your

rmrd0000 — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 19:13:37 +0000

In reply to This is another thing you won

Peter , regarding your condescending 3/5ths comment, you should be made aware that attacks on the voting rights of the black community are real and shown by the actions of the Supreme Court in gutting the Voting Rights Act and the state's in voter suppression,

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/18/think-your-voting-right...

You obviously didn't look at

rmrd0000 — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:51:11 +0000

In reply to This is another thing you won

You obviously didn't look at the charts shown in the linked article and looks at the number of states under discussion. Republicans have been very open in their gerrymandering and voter suppression. The important point is that the GOTV movement works to overcome the suppression of votes. During each election hotlines are set up to allow voters in the black community to alert others to roadblocks being faced at polling places. Lawyers are assigned to deal with problems. Turnout is high despite GOP efforts to suppress votes.

Armchair revolutionaries who despise both parties and have no rational alternative of their own are always amusing. They have no workable solution. They criticize. They offer no platform. Yet they imagine that when the revolution comes they will be better off. These armchair revolutionaries never see themselves as detritus ready to be discarded by real revolutionaries. Amusing.

The Republicans have won the

NCD — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 17:38:35 +0000

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The Republicans have won the popular vote for President only once in the last 6 elections, dating back to 1992.

There is no evidence they lost all those popular vote counts due to the registration of felons.

When all else fails they stop the vote counting by gaming the system with their guys on the Supreme Court.

This is another thing you won

Peter — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 16:19:33 +0000

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This is another thing you won't see the Repugs do , donning the tattered robes of the victim after an electoral loss except for maybe Nixon in '60.

Statements such as ' Republican votes counted more' reminds me of the 3/5 Compromise, pity the poor hapless democrats and excuse their failures because it is always someone's or something else's fault never that their candidate was unappealing, untrustworthy or incompetent.

Republicans are certainly more adept at data-based redistricting than the Democrats but in Texas the Supreme Court found only one district, in the whole state, that was gerrymandered and that was remedied.

I'm not a Republican so i was just wondering if anyone would address the fact that Republicans don't have to register felons to win elections or pad their party membership.

This is not as simple as it

Peter — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:53:42 +0000

In reply to SNAP benefit forms include a

This is not as simple as it appears it is passive aggressive coercion even if it is for a good cause.

If the client was asked if they wanted to register to vote separately from applying for aid and then were given a form to fill out that would be a service to afford the client the right to register but that is not what happens. The client is given a stack of forms including a registration form that has nothing to do with the aid they seek but they are told to fill out all forms and no explanation was offered to me about anything related to this form. If the client isn't registered to vote they may very well see this registration as required for their aid to be approved unless they ask or even think to ask questions.

Many people don't even know when they are being manipulated and even if it is for a good cause it is still manipulation not choice. We still have the freedom and right to reject voting in a corrupt system although with declining voting some people would force compliance which is tyranny.

What is your theory of why

rmrd0000 — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 02:42:36 +0000

In reply to Gerrymandering helps explain

What is your theory of why Republicans don't need GOTV campaigns?

SNAP benefit forms include a

ocean-kat — Tue, 18 Aug 2015 01:08:54 +0000

In reply to I see no one wants to even

SNAP benefit forms include a voter registration form and people are simply told to fill out all forms and you must sign the registration form to reject it , this is repeated every time you update your application.

That's not what happened to me in both Florida and Arizona when I went in to get snap. I doubt that my experience is unusual and I think it's likely that most people have a similar experience to mine. There is a form I occasionally signed. I don't remember how often but it was not every time I updated. Signing the form does not register you to vote. You must also check one of two boxes that say, I want or I do not want to register to vote. I told them I did not want to register. I was never pressured or encouraged to register when I was asked to sign the form.

Gerrymandering helps explain

rmrd0000 — Mon, 17 Aug 2015 23:08:30 +0000

In reply to I see no one wants to even

Gerrymandering helps explain why Republican votes counted more.

http://billmoyers.com/2014/11/05/gerrymandering-rigged-2014-elections-re...

Instead of us playing a guessing game why don't you just make your case?