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Interesting. I don't know if

Michael Maiello — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:56:26 +0000

In reply to Regarding the abuse of civil

Interesting. I don't know if a federal system would be better. Certainly, fragmentation helps aggressive cops find work. If they go overboard in one place and are allowed to resign without a finding against them, they can get police work someplace else. Also, the lack of accountability is evident, not to mention the lack of data by which we can judge.

However, federal law enforcement oversteps all the time as well. Partly, this is because the federal law enforcement divisions are also fragmented (ATF, FBI, Homeland Security...) and partly because the federal government also acts with secrecy and a lack of accountability. I'm thinking all those FBI led terrorism ring stings where the FBI gets idiots to yell "Death to America" and then buy phony plastic explosives...

Still, a federalized system would probably be better than what we have now. National standards for hiring and evaluating police officers would be a big step, as well as a national system for handling and reviewing civilian complaints. This would also break the power of local unions.

Regarding the abuse of civil

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:41:00 +0000

In reply to Honestly, the most important

Regarding the abuse of civil liberties by cops, this article puts a different perspective on some of the common reasons given and offers a reason which is mostly new to me. To whatever extent it is good analysis it also suggests how hard it would be to correct. Worth a read, IMO.

https://consortiumnews.com/2015/08/20/why-us-police-are-out-of-control/

Agreed. Mayors and city

rmrd0000 — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:38:44 +0000

In reply to Honestly, the most important

Agreed. Mayors and city councils may not be able to reign in police behavior. The NYPD was bold enough to turn their backs on DeBlasio and the Baltimore PD seems to be in a work slow down defying Rawlings-Blake.

Honestly, the most important

Michael Maiello — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:24:16 +0000

In reply to She admitted that she has to

Honestly, the most important thing a president can do in this regard is to appoint an AG who will be a watchdog of civil liberties and who won't be afraid to take over a city police department if warranted.

She admitted that she has to

rmrd0000 — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:06:56 +0000

In reply to This is not the impression

She admitted that she has to formulate policies that can get passed. She asked what things they wanted her to do. BLM had no specifics.

Sanders put out a document, but there is obviously no guarantee that he can get the policies in his document through Congress intact.

What specifics would you have given Hillary?

This is not the impression

Peter — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:32:53 +0000

In reply to Hal, we're not going to agree

This is not the impression some commenters and participants saw in this meeting. HRC appeared stiff, patronizing, defensive and evasive. This was not a confrontation with Putin where being ' tough' was called for, these were subjects and victims of policies of Clinton1 who wanted answers from her about her support for those repressive policies and laws. They received no real answer and were subjected to a patronizing lecture about what they need to know.

I tend to agree with you. I

Michael Maiello — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 18:09:28 +0000

In reply to Yeah, so is Obama, but I got

I tend to agree with you. I just think the motivations and ends of liberal interventionists tend to differ from those of neocons.

Yeah, so is Obama, but I got

A Guy Called LULU — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:45:07 +0000

In reply to Fair enough. Hillary's been

Yeah, so is Obama, but I got off him based on his foreign policy in about six months to a year. I did not, and so far cannot, see where any of our "liberal interventions have been either non-hypocritically justified or affective in improving anything anywhere. But I guess that that has long been evident.

Hal, you're too easily

Peter — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:02:05 +0000

In reply to Oxy - that's great. Here's

Hal, you're too easily impressed by cheap campaign rhetoric that is little more than a personal opinion. HRC made no promise to ban drilling in the Arctic or even to propose a ban once in office just an opinion that it was unwise. This is standard political Kabuki to distance the new candidate from the old.

Fair enough. Hillary's been

Michael Maiello — Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:41:31 +0000

In reply to A difference your analysis

Fair enough. Hillary's been in public life for a long time and has evolved on a lot of issues. If you see that as "she'll take whatever position will help her to her desired position," I can see that.

I think calling her a neocon goes too far. She's a liberal interventionist. But, so is Obama!