dagblog - Comments for "A Message To Black Lives Matter" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/message-black-lives-matter-19821 Comments for "A Message To Black Lives Matter" en The diversion of black crime http://dagblog.com/comment/212002#comment-212002 <a id="comment-212002"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/212000#comment-212000">Before BLM, it was all</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The diversion of black crime as opposed to dealing with state sanctioned violence against black people is an old one</p> <blockquote> <p><span style="font-size:20px"> When Ida B. Wells, the world’s leading anti-lynching activist and black social worker of the early twentieth century, tried to explain to a wealthy suffragist in Chicago that anti-black violence in the nation must end, Mary Plummer replied: blacks need to “drive the criminals out” of the community. “Have you forgotten that 10 percent of all the crimes that were committed in Chicago last year were by colored men [less than 3 percent of the population]?”</span></p> </blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/darren-wilson-americas-model-policeman/">http://www.thenation.com/article/darren-wilson-americas-model-policeman/</a></p> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:19:49 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 212002 at http://dagblog.com Before BLM, it was all http://dagblog.com/comment/212000#comment-212000 <a id="comment-212000"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211999#comment-211999">Yep it&#039;s all BLM&#039;s fault. The</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Before BLM, it was all Sharpton's fault. Before that it was Jesse's fault. It was King's fault, It was Fannie's fault. It was Malcolm's fault. It was DuBois' fault. It was Washington's fault. It was Ida's fault. They were all loudmouths who ignored black-on-black crime.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:38:37 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 212000 at http://dagblog.com Yep it's all BLM's fault. The http://dagblog.com/comment/211999#comment-211999 <a id="comment-211999"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211998#comment-211998">My default position is BLM</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yep it's all BLM's fault. The fact that urban communities have been abused by police for years has nothing to do with the lack of respect for law enforcement. Baltimore paid out millions in legal settlements of police abuse cases without changing the way law enforcement was practiced. If there are no programs directed at urban unemployment, there will be no relief in sight.</p> <p>There have been protests of violence in Baltimore including a <a href="http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-300-men-march-20150816-story.html">march</a> to DC to draw attention. If people protest, it's called ineffective action. If people don't protest it's called an ineffective response. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.</p> <p>There is no trust in the judicial system and there is unemployment and poor schools. Do you think it is more effective for jobs and education to be addressed or for BLM to tell people to have hope in a hopeless situation?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:20:25 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 211999 at http://dagblog.com My default position is BLM http://dagblog.com/comment/211998#comment-211998 <a id="comment-211998"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211996#comment-211996">Blacks who become regular</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>My default position is BLM seems to be a publicity seeking protest outfit with no real plan to help communities beyond organizing confrontations.  For instance, aiding on the ground, the mayor of Baltimore in dealing with the rising homicides and violence in the city.</p> <p>And when the website of Campaign Zero names Newark, with the 3rd highest homicide rate in America, as a public safety center of excellence, my position is are they crazy or just kidding?</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 15:00:08 +0000 NCD comment 211998 at http://dagblog.com Blacks who become regular http://dagblog.com/comment/211996#comment-211996 <a id="comment-211996"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211985#comment-211985">White, Black or yellow if I</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Blacks who become regular fixtures on Fox are there to criticize other blacks. Google Jesse Lee Patterson, Stacey Dash, and Larry Elder. Google Johnathan Gentry. They all feed into Fox News' racist pathology.</p> <p>Your default position appears to be that police abuses can only be addressed after there is a decrease in black crime. Black crime was at 40 year lows until blatant police abuses were documented. The take home message is that black crime is never going to be low enough to remove it as a diversion from changing policing and the judicial system.baltimore flared after a death at the hands of police.</p> <p>Regarding Jamyla Boyden, Google her name and St. Louis Post-Dispatch and tell me how many hits you get.(zero). The community held a fundraiser and a candlelight vigil for the slain 9-year old. </p> <p><a href="http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/08/19/9-year-old-fatally-shot--ferguson-home/31999999/">http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/crime/2015/08/19/9-year-old-fatally-shot-...</a></p> <p>In the case of police violence there is a record of the shooter. In the case of Kamyla Boyden, the shooter is unknown.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:03:20 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 211996 at http://dagblog.com White, Black or yellow if I http://dagblog.com/comment/211985#comment-211985 <a id="comment-211985"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211984#comment-211984">I have not seen evidence that</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>White, Black or yellow if I lived in Ferguson I would hope BLM did not come in next year to protest the 2nd anniversary of Michael Browns murder. Enough is enough of the confrontations.</p> <p><a href="http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/08/22/minister-slams-black-lives-matter-why-are-you-not-cleaning-your-own-community">West LA black preacher saying</a> about what I am saying, from Fox News.</p> <p>Note: I do not watch Fox News, I knew the murder rate in Baltimore with a black Mayor and (had -just fired) a black police chief has<strong> </strong><a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/baltimore-unrest/baltimore-mayor-fires-police-commissioner-amid-spike-homicide-rate-n388841">had a huge rise in murder rates since BLM protested </a>the Freddie Grey death, I was trying to look up to see what BLM was doing about the rise in Baltimore homicides, found nothing that they are doing to help Baltimore, I found this, the video is at the link</p> <blockquote> <p><em>Johnathan Gentry, minister at West Angeles Church of God in Christ, yesterday said that presidential candidates should not be afraid of the “superficial, shallow” Black Lives Matter movement.. He said that 2016 contenders should ask the group,<strong> “Why are you not cleaning up your own community if black lives matter?”</strong></em></p> <p><em>The minister asked: Where was Black Lives Matter in Chicago, in Baltimore and in Ferguson when 9-year-old Jamyla Bolden was shot to death in her own home? </em></p> <p><em>Gentry said that candidates shouldn’t fear the “superficial, shallow movement.”</em></p> <p><em>“They are cookies with no milk, Lamborghini with no 12-cylinder engine,” he said.</em></p> </blockquote> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:07:31 +0000 NCD comment 211985 at http://dagblog.com I have not seen evidence that http://dagblog.com/comment/211984#comment-211984 <a id="comment-211984"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211983#comment-211983">Changing things for the</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I have not seen evidence that BLM is not working to change things for the better. </p> </div></div></div> Mon, 24 Aug 2015 00:01:15 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 211984 at http://dagblog.com Changing things for the http://dagblog.com/comment/211983#comment-211983 <a id="comment-211983"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211982#comment-211982">I think I&#039;ve got your</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Changing things for the better is what it is all about white or black or Latino.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 23 Aug 2015 23:25:42 +0000 NCD comment 211983 at http://dagblog.com I think I've got your http://dagblog.com/comment/211982#comment-211982 <a id="comment-211982"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211979#comment-211979">I&#039;ve worked in minority and</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I think I've got your experience trumped because I was born a black male in the United States of America. I work to improve health conditions and education. I have had up close and personal encounters with law enforcement. I have seen more real blood and guts than you ever will.</p> <p>This is a nonsensical argument blacks work in urban communities, whites work in urban communities. Both try to change things for the better.</p> <p>If BLM didn't present a list, they would be considered loudmouths with no specifics. Now that they have a list of issues, they are criticized because it does not magically solve any problem. Damned if they do, Damned if they don't.</p> <p>Latinos have worked for years on immigration and economics. LGBT groups have worked for years on marriage and workplace discrimination. Both groups made progress through protest. BLM is part of black protest over state sanctioned homicides and an attack on voting rights.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:51:56 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 211982 at http://dagblog.com Yes, unlike say numerous war http://dagblog.com/comment/211981#comment-211981 <a id="comment-211981"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/211980#comment-211980">King did have time to develop</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Yes, unlike say numerous war protesters and Wall Street protesters who have confronted candidates and presidents and been manhandled by security, evicted or thrown in jail, BLM was allowed to talk. Luck of the draw and timeliness of the issue. BLM has had a year since Ferguson to develop its agenda - I'm not sure it takes more than a weekend to put something coherent and compelling together. In any case, their 15 minutes of fame will fade quickly - hope they use it well.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 23 Aug 2015 22:50:10 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 211981 at http://dagblog.com