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I hate it how quickly they

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 19:22:29 +0000

In reply to I play WOW and my alt guild

I hate it how quickly they jump to violence. It's not like Nihilism ever hurt anyone, yet they can't let gamers have their own safe space. Next thing they'll take away our virtual weapons, turn it into World of Arts & Crafts or something

I play WOW and my alt guild

ocean-kat — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 17:57:43 +0000

In reply to "it's just not cool" - and

I play WOW and my alt guild is Nihilism. It was kinda upsetting when Hillary called me out in the debate, "We have to confront Nihilism." So I must have kicked her ass in some pvp encounter but it's petty to hold a grudge. Have to say, I reconsidering my vote.

Good exchange. I have nothing

Flavius — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 15:30:00 +0000

In reply to Dem Debate Tonight (Open Thread for Reactions)

Good exchange. I have nothing of substance to add so I'll just remark the adult tone made me proud to be associated with Dagblog. Sounds condescending but so be it.

Her campaign has spent money

trkingmomoe — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 10:03:53 +0000

In reply to I wish she'd just state the

Her campaign has spent money on focus groups and in house polling and know that if she would say something like that, she would not get the support she needs in the general from all the Sanders supporters. There would be enough that would hold it really against her to the point they would not vote for her. That would put her at risk in the general.

I was more just noting that

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 09:36:46 +0000

In reply to All that because I said her 9

I was more just noting that our policies are often less policies than "cool" tags that punch a button.

Seems people are touchy today.

All that because I said her 9

barefooted — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 08:22:24 +0000

In reply to "it's just not cool" - and

All that because I said her 9/11 remarks weren't "cool"? Perhaps you'd prefer another word. I won't argue that, but I will argue that the statement didn't help her case. Agree or not, she has an issue here. I don't personally think it's do-or-die in the grand scheme of things, but it's going to come up in the general.

"it's just not cool" - and

PeraclesPlease — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 07:28:35 +0000

In reply to O'Malley hit hard against

"it's just not cool" - and thus a big problem with our debates and system. Techno parties are (or were) cool - but have little to do with real-world politics. The "cool" is also "anti-cool", as Iowa reminds us every 4 years with their goddamn penis-looking corndogs (these people are anti-gay/anti-pornography born-again Christians?) and county fairs. As Cory Doctorow explains:

Next time President Bush tells you he's going to Crawford to be with "real Americans," remind him that there are more World of Warcraft players in the USA than there are farmers (though of course the two aren't mutually exclusive).

There are four times as many Americans living in urban than rural areas. There are four times as many people sucking back coffee in New York city alone than make a living farming. .... But when one of these "What does America think about culture" pieces comes on, do I ever see a mid-30's software engineer onscreen bitching about having to download BitTorrents of "The IT Crowd"? Fuck and no.

Four million people in the US play World of Warcraft. And yet, do I ever hear:

ANDERSON: We stopped by the gates of Ogrimmar in Durotar, on the east coast of Kalimdor, where one local told us Hollywood just can't relate to the level-grinding life.

O'Malley hit hard against

barefooted — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 06:56:19 +0000

In reply to Dem Debate Tonight (Open Thread for Reactions)

O'Malley hit hard against Clinton - he had to, then and now, if he wants his name remembered. Did it matter? No. He wants VP or a cabinet position; the first being impossible and the latter only likely in a spot with little responsibility.

Sanders stayed in his zone and, as he often does, refused to deviate no matter the issue. Global terrorism is all about inequality and billionaires. He hasn't decided what the tax rate will be for an undecided income level, but it won't be an ancient Republican's (oddly, also Trump's recent call-out) 90%. Ha!

Clinton completely blew her assumed advantage - her opponents were better than she expected, which put her on defense. 9/11? No matter how much it might make weedy sense it's just not cool.

It's incredibly sad that what happened in Paris happened. Our political candidates are better equipped to play games with money, polls and supporters than to stop and think about what it means to be president.

I dunno. But in a world that changes in more dangerous ways every single day, including domestic challenges that require not only purpose but power, I'm with Hillary Clinton.

I wish she'd just state the

ocean-kat — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 02:58:42 +0000

In reply to That comment really stood out

I wish she'd just state the obvious. The Koch brothers are putting nearly a billion dollars into the election as are many others. Democrats need to take the money where they can get it. We don't have to like it but we can't play by a different set of rules than the republicans. Until Citizens United is changed there's only one set of rules. Democrats need to get real and acknowledge that money matters.

That comment really stood out

trkingmomoe — Mon, 16 Nov 2015 01:26:00 +0000

In reply to My favorite line of the night

That comment really stood out and O'Malley's comment on carnival barker Trump also is being remembered. There is always a line or two that sticks in a debate.

Clinton does have problem with being close to Wall Street. When she tried to shift the focus from that to 9/11, social media jumped on that like their pants was on fire. It was " What does 9/11 have to do with the question?" I don't know what she can do about it?