dagblog - Comments for "America Needs More Refugees" http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/america-needs-more-refugees-20087 Comments for "America Needs More Refugees" en Since many ISIS terrorists http://dagblog.com/comment/215770#comment-215770 <a id="comment-215770"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/215726#comment-215726">But how do we keep terrorists</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Since many Daesh terrorists have easier ways into the West, the possibility of a few extra among the refugees don't actually make a lot of difference. Many of them have Western passports. And many of them are already in the West, where they were born. Most of the Paris attackers were French or Belgian. The extra Daesh fighter who may have been using a Syrian passport wasn't enough to stage that attack himself. He was extra muscle for a home-grown terror cell that would have launched pretty much the same attack if he were not there.</p> <p>The test isn't whether something could bad possibly happen. If you insist on zero possibility of danger, then you can't do anything at all. And turning away tens of thousands of people for fear of one terrorist will end up creating more than one terrorist.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:54:00 +0000 Doctor Cleveland comment 215770 at http://dagblog.com That's just it... how do we http://dagblog.com/comment/215755#comment-215755 <a id="comment-215755"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/215737#comment-215737">It&#039;s not foolish it&#039;s a</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>That's just it... how do we fight a potential criminal?  The way we always do.  Try to set reasonable laws, try to keep our eyes open, try not to let our fear of what might happen interfere with the lives of people who might just be different but have done nothing wrong.</p> <p>This doesn't really have to inform our immigration policy.  The current law enforcement system in the US is highly effective.  It can be handled.</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 23 Nov 2015 01:33:10 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 215755 at http://dagblog.com We gotta fight somebody... http://dagblog.com/comment/215754#comment-215754 <a id="comment-215754"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/215680#comment-215680">you were on a roll there,</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>We gotta fight somebody...</p> </div></div></div> Mon, 23 Nov 2015 01:29:03 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 215754 at http://dagblog.com It's not foolish it's a http://dagblog.com/comment/215737#comment-215737 <a id="comment-215737"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/215726#comment-215726">But how do we keep terrorists</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It's not foolish it's a legitimate  but overblown and misplaced fear. If there were 20 attacks in Paris that each killed 130 people it would still be less than the 3,000 fatalities in France from car accidents every year.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 22 Nov 2015 17:49:56 +0000 ocean-kat comment 215737 at http://dagblog.com But how do we keep terrorists http://dagblog.com/comment/215726#comment-215726 <a id="comment-215726"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/america-needs-more-refugees-20087">America Needs More Refugees</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>But how do we keep terrorists from sneaking in with them? It isn't really foolish to be concerned about that, even though nearly every refugee is surely innocent.  One of the Paris terrorists is said to have showed up in Greece posing as an asylum seeker--although he was born in Europe.</p> </div></div></div> Sun, 22 Nov 2015 13:10:46 +0000 Aaron Carine comment 215726 at http://dagblog.com you were on a roll there, http://dagblog.com/comment/215680#comment-215680 <a id="comment-215680"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/america-needs-more-refugees-20087">America Needs More Refugees</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even">you were on a roll there, until you suggested that we needed more puritans..</div></div></div> Sat, 21 Nov 2015 04:09:09 +0000 jollyroger comment 215680 at http://dagblog.com There should be more zebras http://dagblog.com/comment/215624#comment-215624 <a id="comment-215624"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/215621#comment-215621">While I agree with much of</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even">There should be more zebras than horses.</div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:00:08 +0000 PeraclesPlease comment 215624 at http://dagblog.com While I agree with much of http://dagblog.com/comment/215621#comment-215621 <a id="comment-215621"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/america-needs-more-refugees-20087">America Needs More Refugees</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>While I agree with much of your post we, as always, seem to be focused on a short term crisis while we're ignoring long term problems. For me the larger long term problem is over population. Here's a powerful graphic illustration of what we have done to our planet. I wish I could reprint it here but I urge you to click on the link. It's a representation of <a href="http://xkcd.com/1338/">Earth's Land Mammals by Weigh</a>t separated into humans, our pets and livestock, and wild animals. This is not the planet I want to live on. This is not responsible stewardship of our planet.</p> <p>I lived in Japan for two years, population density 337 per square kilometer. There are no wild spaces left anywhere. All that's left of "wild animals" are massive temple grounds populated mostly with thousands of deer and tourists that buy corn and feed them by hand. I don't want to live there either. I love the wide open and somewhat wild spaces of the US, pop 31 per square kilometer. I haven't lived in any European country but from my experiences in Japan I can guess. UK, 254 per square kilo. How many people do you think can fit on those small islands? Germany 230 per square kilo.</p> <p>I know that the US can easily absorb a million or more refugees. Yes, the increase in population density in the US from a few million immigrants is a trifling problem but its a trifling step in the wrong direction. We're constantly making dozens of trifling steps in the wrong direction that add up and not even talking about the long range problems they cause. You can't have infinite growth on a finite planet. That's a problem we're close to being forced to consider. I'm against anything that makes it easier for high population density countries to ignore that problem. I want the US to begin to face the issue of over population before we become a high population density country.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:05:38 +0000 ocean-kat comment 215621 at http://dagblog.com There is a whole lot of http://dagblog.com/comment/215615#comment-215615 <a id="comment-215615"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/america-needs-more-refugees-20087">America Needs More Refugees</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>There is a whole lot of stupid in this country right now.  </p> <p>I live in a very diverse community.  Four languages are spoken in public.  We have lots of extra holidays that are celebrated.  It is communities like mine that are the first places that immigrants come to live.  This makes a community socially richer and smarter.  In so many ways it makes up for the poor economy,  </p> <p>I see how my grandchildren preform better in school and don't expect everything to be handed to them. They know that they can't have everything they want. They know to stay off the streets because of over policing.  Young drivers don't own cars many don't even have license. So their lives revolve around bus schedules and having a family member for transportation.  The last bus is at 10 PM so that get them home early.   </p> <p>Many here use only cash. <span style="line-height:1.6">The banking industry don't serve small savers and lending needs.  I have learned much from watching people here navigate through the economy. </span><span style="line-height:1.6"> I save more and not reach for the credit card as often.  </span></p> <p><span style="line-height:1.6">People depend on each other more. If a car breaks down, you can depend on help because you have helped them through needs. I still marvel at that because when I lived in white suburbia it was every man for themselves.  If you broke down you better have AAA and money to pay a mechanic.  If you didn't then it was your fault.  People who had to risk leaving their homes behind think differently about that. Right now this country needs a lot more of that kind of thinking. </span></p> <p><span style="line-height:1.6">I think we need immigrants as much as they need us.   </span><span style="line-height:1.6"> </span></p> </div></div></div> Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:21:01 +0000 trkingmomoe comment 215615 at http://dagblog.com I do not wish to sound cheap http://dagblog.com/comment/215595#comment-215595 <a id="comment-215595"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/world-affairs/america-needs-more-refugees-20087">America Needs More Refugees</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I do not wish to sound cheap but....</p> <p>We should not wish to live like refugees</p> <p> </p><div class="media_embed" height="315px" width="420px"><iframe allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315px" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fFnOfpIJL0M" width="420px"></iframe></div> <p>Somewhere somebody...</p> <p>Treated us like A REFUGEE...</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 18 Nov 2015 21:04:35 +0000 Richard Day comment 215595 at http://dagblog.com