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It was at the UK Telegraph, I

NCD — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:13:52 +0000

It was at the UK Telegraph, I believe. His point on the Iraqi gov't seemed accurate, see 'US presses for Iraqi Army to push on Ramadi', and yet Mosul is really the big fish, not Ramadi.

Bottom line is (non-Kurd) Sunni need to free themselves where they are, and they show little signs of doing so. In Iraq....Why?

If the Sunni expel ISIS they then go back under a Shiite gov't and not so nice Moqtada al Sadr Shiite/ Iran connected militias, neither of which are friendly to them, or want them in the gov't.

If we had divided Iraq into 3 parts like Biden suggested, there would at least have been a Sunni gov't in middle of Iraq, with a stake in fighting for self-government and control of their land.

James Bamford said he had no inkling as to how to end this thing on Diane Rehm last week, and said US efforts, all to date and in the future, have/will fail without a collection of strong local groups/gov'ts leading the process, and he sees no takers, just like the guy who wrote the Telegraph op-ed.

Which U.K. writer are you

moat — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 13:48:45 +0000

In reply to The problem with ISIS was

Which U.K. writer are you referring to? There is much that is debatable in this summary. Perhaps you could post it in a separate news or blog post.

Fortunately I've resigned

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:20:26 +0000

In reply to The problem with ISIS was

Fortunately I've resigned myself to my parents' Extremist views and learned to ditch the Mizzou garb for a Le Royal t-shirt when walking through Paris

Fortunately I've resigned

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 10:14:34 +0000

In reply to The problem with ISIS was

Good summary of the players and situation here.

NCD, thanks for the summary.

Oxy Mora — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 04:40:03 +0000

In reply to The problem with ISIS was

NCD, thanks for the summary.

The problem with ISIS was

NCD — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 03:21:33 +0000

In reply to Peracles, I can't imagine

The problem with ISIS was examined by a UK writer, in a nutshell, no local Muslim group or state wants to get rid of ISIS at this point. Without local support, nothing Russia, US, Britain or France does will remove them.

Turkey - wants to get rid of Assad, so does ISIS. ISIS has been called Erdogran's proxy force while Hezbollah is Assad's proxy force. Turkey also gets low cost oil and human trafficking is a boost for local economies

Baghdad, Iraq - as long as ISIS controls the Sunni region, no requirement or need to share power with them. The End.

Iran - can take the high ground vs. ISIS, while Sunni ISIS shows the world what real barbarity is Sunni/Saudi style.

Kurds - do not want to fight to free Sunni regions, or Sunni population that have a record of attacking them, will fight for Kurd lands and cities only.

Assad - prefers to fight 'moderate Islamists' (if there is such a thing) to reduce conflict to just an Assad vs ISIS fight.

Saudi Arabia -major financier of radical Sunni groups (Saudi law proscribes a death sentence for conversion of a Muslim to any other religion, has medieval Sharia Law, like ISIS) prefers to bomb Shiite connected Houthi's in Yemen and has dropped out of fight against ISIS.

'Moderate' Syrian Islamists - ISIS allied with them against Assad, make deals/trades/sell US supplied weapons to ISIS.

You can see why Obama does not want to re-invade the region.

PP - congratulations on your safe walk thru St. Denis. Stay safe.

Sadiq Khan, Muslim and Labor candidate for Mayor of London:

“Extremism isn’t a theoretical risk. Most British Muslims have come across someone with extremist views at some point – and so have I.

“It’s affected my personal life, my friendships and my career. People I knew as a boy have gone on to hold extremist views, and even to act on them in terrible ways.”

He disclosed that each time he has stood as an MP he has faced a “campaign of hate” and has received police protection....“Extremists came and protested outside mosques in my community, handing out leaflets telling the congregation – my friends and neighbours – that voting is banned in Islam. Telling people I’ve known since I was a boy that I am destined to go to hell. ..They say that Muslims shouldn’t take part in democracy.

Peracles, I can't imagine

Oxy Mora — Fri, 20 Nov 2015 01:24:05 +0000

In reply to Well the French call these

Peracles, I can't imagine them ignoring a guy wearing a Mizzou tee-shirt.

(I am recalling my stay at Georges V where I was billeted with the Stevie Wonder band and more or less trailed them back to London, sharing and paying for a cab with the attractive business manager. I must have misread her interest in me, as the next day I was told by the concierge at Claridge's that she had requested I stop calling her. )

A question for you or any of the thoughtful contributors here---what would it take (assuming that this attack, and most likely others, will not usher in a Rubio or Cruz Administration) for the U.S.to use the heightened muscle of France, as well as Russia, to wrap this Syrian/ISIS mess into a stalemate of sorts which would at least in the short term take the pressure off the U.S. to jump back in with additional troops.

Well the French call these

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 21:07:41 +0000

In reply to Thanks for not bringing up

Well the French call these terrorists kamikaze - where do you think *that* comes from? But I live in the EU, so yes, probably have some preconceptions. Invalid preconceptions or ones formed by experience? I was recalling my visit to near that neighborhood in St Denis where the police shootout occurred - a rather robust neighborhood with Mideastern Muslims, Indians & Bengali's, Vietnamese, East Asians, etc. A movable feast. For some reason I didnt feel threatened walking around.

Thanks for not bringing up

NCD — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 18:55:53 +0000

In reply to Europe's problems have

Thanks for not bringing up The Charge of the Light Brigade or Gallipoli 'being worse examples than the Paris attacks'....again.

I think you have a number of huge preconceptions about Muslims, Europe, the EU borders and the challenges and problems involved, and I am content for you to remain firm in your beliefs, it would be a fools mission to do otherwise.

Europe's problems have

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 19 Nov 2015 08:59:54 +0000

In reply to The Anti-Defamation League

Europe's problems have nothing to do with lax border checks - there wouldn't be much of a check between French-speaking Belgium and France anyway. It's about disgruntled Muslims in slums with little opportunity - in this case, Algerians and Moroccans, France's old colonies (which were part of France so didn't need any passports back then). The disgruntled Muslim ghetto doesn't much exist in the US, so it's less a worry.

Why couldn't disgruntled Muslims get machine guns in the US with all the open-carry and free access to guns there? More a different attitude.

There is no need for extremist groups or alienated individuals in France to have any contact with Syria or Afghanistan whatsoever just to do some machine gun & small bomb attacks - so all this discussion about borders and immigration is a complete red herring.

There are no Muslim attacks in Germany because the Turks are better integrated, with better jobs, less fundamentalist, and less discriminated against. It can still happen, but less likely. And there likely won't be any Muslim terrorist attacks anywhere else in Europe - there are smaller populations, the level of acceptance is in general fine, there's not the tension. Yeah, perhaps French Algerians could take a roadtrip to Greece or Norway, but they haven't been inclined to do that, have they? Why not? Spain and Italy are just across the border - but they don't have much of a grudge or energy to go anywhere else.

Really, you have some end ideas, and you want to distort all the facts to support those goals. Why?