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The simple fact is that

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 19:44:41 +0000

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The simple fact is that someone would post the photos via Twitter, Facebook, or elsewhere The photos were going to go viral. If the photos weren't published, a police report would have been published. That would have been picked up as well. Once details of black Harvard Law professors photos being taped over, the story was going viral. For young people, it was essentially reflex for details of the black tape incident to wind up on social media. The new norm.

Sure, rap lyrics are the same

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 19:32:15 +0000

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Sure, rap lyrics are the same as falsely accusing several people of rape and putting them through a year of tabloids and costly trials. LOLZ. What other people call Wednesday, Sharpton calls Payday.

You not only can say t, you

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:47:56 +0000

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You not only can say it, you did say it. You offered an opinion.

Regarding the spread of the photos, welcome to the Internet age.

Sharpton has been criticized by hardcore rap stars for pointing out misogynistic lyrics He has been criticized by elements of Black Lives Matter. Sharpton being labeled a fraud is something he calls Wednesday.

I can say that if the campus

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:39:34 +0000

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I can say that if the campus didn't treat it that way, there would have been protests demanding resignations. The photos were posted up as a hate crime within minutes - spread quickly to overseas press. Hardly time for an investigation. As someone posited, "who would risk expulsion from the great Harvard over that?" Whatever Al Sharpton does, to many he'll always be a fraud.

Legal standards differ from

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:24:26 +0000

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Legal standards differ from public standards

I can label Donald Trump a bigot and a racist personally. I can label Ben Carson an .Islamophobe.

In the case of the Harvard students, the first black student on the scene stopped a professor from removing evidence and suggested calling the police. Police were brought in to analyze the case. Students voiced opinions that this was a racist act. There were no demonstrations, just discussions to address issues that black students felt were important. Would you prefer that no discussions regarding the issues occur?

I can say that Dylan Roof , the man who killed nine people in Charleston, is a murderer. He has not been to trial, but I can state my opinion. You could opine that O.J. Simpson is a murder even thought he was not guilty in a court of law.

Sorry, but the standard is

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:08:01 +0000

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Sorry, but the standard is still innocent before proven guilty, even tho like the preference for plea bargains, most cases don't go to trial, so we judge based on available evidence. That goes for rapes, racist abuse and police actions, though obviously if there are conspiracies to cover up evidence, whether by police or activists, we can't treat it as innocent.

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 16:01:55 +0000

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Wow. The Harvard discussions "jumped" to issues that were already on the minds of the Harvard Law Schools students. The issues had been brought up before. Regarding the seal issue, it is probable that there were. white and Latino law professors at Harvard who favored discussion about the seals. Only black professors were chosen for taping. Randall Kennedy picture was taped and he really didn't care about the seals. Race was the sole basis for the taping.

I haven't heard Tawana Brawley's name in years. You are not the the US so you may not realize that Al Sharpton is often the go to guy when families lose a loved one to police homicide. Sharpton was a major factor in curtailing Stop and Frisk in NYC.

Regarding hoaxes, the argument seems eerily like arguments about rape. The hoax involved in the University of Virginia case does not mean that omen should not come forward. Women should not feel shamed because of the actions of one woman. Blacks and other minorities should not be silent about racial discrimination because of isolated hoaxes.

The rape hoax in the Duke Lacrosse situation was the production of a local white prosecutor. When the story of a stripper at an athletic dorm party came out, black activists waited for more details. There were no mass protests. The prosecutor led the fake charge all on his own.

The bad state of affairs between blacks and police exists because of real events like e cover-up in Chicago. Police unions routinely fight to keep bad cops on the force. Baltimore paid out $400 million for police abuse cases according to the Baltimore Sun. Chicago has paid out $500 million for police abuse. Chicago is shutting down schools because they don't have enough money. Perhaps paying out half a billion dollars is a reason that they don't have money. Police abuse is my concern. There is another case of police homicide in Chicago that occurred before the MacDonald murder. Ronald Johnson was shot in the back During a police chase. It is unclear if he was armed. Chicago police and the local prosecutor have been dragging their feet in releasing dashcam video in the case. I think the police and prosecutor are lying scum hiding evidence in the case. That is my opinion without viewing the tape. The Chicago PD and prosecutor are not worthy of trust.

I reject the "hoax" hypothesis when it says that we have to question a woman in detail before we believe that she was raped. Bill Cosby benefitted from that nonsense. I reject the "hoax" hypothesis when it comes to charges of racism. Harvard is dealing with real issues not focusing on the isolated tape incident.

Tawana Brawley?

The Harvard discussions

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 06:26:51 +0000

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The Harvard discussions jumped to those other issues largely because of jumping to conclusions, or accepting the framework as delivered that morning (so as not to see another president have to resign, say).

I think the Tawana Brawley case hurt blacks' pursuit of justice badly over the last 15 years. If the current bout of campus administration shaming starts popping up with extortionary hoaxes, there's going to be blowback, and considering the bad state of police violent abuse against blacks - both innocent passerbys and guilty black suspects - that's the issue I'm more concerned about.

The Harvard discussions are

rmrd0000 — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 22:58:39 +0000

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The Harvard discussions are focused on other issues so you got your wish.

I'm not really discussing the

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 01 Dec 2015 21:52:21 +0000

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I'm not really discussing the tape - I'm discussing the tendency to overreact before facts are in. I think I said that already.