dagblog - Comments for "Obama Should Not Have Spoken Tonight" http://dagblog.com/obama-should-not-have-spoken-tonight-20144 Comments for "Obama Should Not Have Spoken Tonight" en killing for an "idea" is just http://dagblog.com/comment/216320#comment-216320 <a id="comment-216320"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216241#comment-216241">Sirhan Sirhan&#039;s lawyers use</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>killing for an "idea" is just more broken person behavior. Motive is mostly irrelevant. Just whatever garbage a broken person gloms onto on their way to demonstrating their brokenness by murdering people. Brokenness in no way excuses it any more than an "idea" justifies it. </p> </div></div></div> Sat, 12 Dec 2015 12:33:12 +0000 Zk0sm0 comment 216320 at http://dagblog.com The problem that Obama and http://dagblog.com/comment/216244#comment-216244 <a id="comment-216244"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216241#comment-216241">Sirhan Sirhan&#039;s lawyers use</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The problem that Obama and the democrats are having trouble dealing with is that it's not really a big problem and the republicans are manipulating and inflaming the irrational fear. That's been the republicans path to power for half a century.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 09 Dec 2015 03:17:06 +0000 ocean-kat comment 216244 at http://dagblog.com Sirhan Sirhan's lawyers use http://dagblog.com/comment/216241#comment-216241 <a id="comment-216241"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216216#comment-216216">How were these &quot;broken people</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Sirhan Sirhan's lawyers use this same 'broken person' diversion to try to save him from the death penalty for shooting Bobby Kennedy but failed. Sirhan confessed to killing Kennedy for an Idea, the Palestinian Cause and Kennedy's promotion of Israel's bombing Palestinians. Interestingly he was a Christian Arab.</p> <p>Using the same 'broken persons' diversion now just perpetuates the myth that there is something defective/broken with those people who will sacrifice themselves for an Idea and inflict pain on those, clueless Westerners, who deny any responsibility for our broken, bloody, vicious civilization.</p> <p>Obama and the rest of our degenerate Ruling Class haven't a clue what to say or do except ratchet up the surveillance state and restrict more citizen's liberty along with more bombs for the Muslims. Obama's speechwriter did cleverly tuck in an 'Overcome' to try to overcome the Be Very Afraid reality of today.</p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 09 Dec 2015 02:37:53 +0000 Peter comment 216241 at http://dagblog.com Your Al Qaeda newsletter http://dagblog.com/comment/216236#comment-216236 <a id="comment-216236"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216211#comment-216211">Trying to minimize this</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Your Al Qaeda newsletter report qualifies as an instance of "overemphasizing" an international militant agenda.<br /> Thank goodness that crowd doesn't suffer from any sort of denial.</p> </div></div></div> Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:48:51 +0000 moat comment 216236 at http://dagblog.com I guess we have a different http://dagblog.com/comment/216235#comment-216235 <a id="comment-216235"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216219#comment-216219">How were these &quot;broken people</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I guess we have a different idea of what makes a "broken" person.  I think of someone who can't get a break; can't get a job; can't find a place to live, and has no hope of ever getting ahead, or even feeding his family; as feeling broken.</p> <p><span style="line-height:1.6">Maybe they weren't happy. Maybe they didn't like living in the US.  Maybe they wanted different things than what they had, but they had options. For sure they had more advantages than many people who don't go on violent, murderous rampages, or as you are calling it, doing "broken things."  </span></p> <p>Seriously, if they hated "The American Dream," they had choices. </p> </div></div></div> Wed, 09 Dec 2015 01:33:02 +0000 CVille Dem comment 216235 at http://dagblog.com How were these "broken people http://dagblog.com/comment/216219#comment-216219 <a id="comment-216219"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216216#comment-216216">How were these &quot;broken people</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><blockquote> <p>How were these "broken people doing broken things?"</p> </blockquote> <p>I think secretly stockpiling weapons in your home and planning acts of mayhem counts as broken behavior.  That they had good jobs and were educated doesn't mean they're not broken people.  People keep saying they were "living the American Dream."  Sometimes that's not enough.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 21:53:59 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 216219 at http://dagblog.com How were these "broken people http://dagblog.com/comment/216216#comment-216216 <a id="comment-216216"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216198#comment-216198">I do wish that the FBI had</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>How were these "broken people doing broken things?"  She had a degree in Pharmacy although she was not working here, but he had a responsible and well-paying job.  If posting allegiance to ISIS during a shooting rampage doesn't make you a member if a terrorist group, what does?</p> <p>I really thought the President framed it very well    I'm also really glad he did it  </p> <p> </p> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:49:11 +0000 CVille Dem comment 216216 at http://dagblog.com Trying to minimize this http://dagblog.com/comment/216211#comment-216211 <a id="comment-216211"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216198#comment-216198">I do wish that the FBI had</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Trying to minimize this domestic and international terror attack is just as diversionary  as overemphasizing it. A full century of humiliation, suppression and exploitation of Muslims along with the recent mass murder and destruction in Iraq and Afghanistan has ignited a generations spanning response that won't be subdued by anything the West does or says, it's too late for that.</p> <p>Amerika and Western Civilization has shown the world it is the greatest master in history of death and destruction but also of denialism which is why OBL was prescient in predicting that the US/West would, with the help of a few pinprick terror attacks, destroy itself and everything it supposedly stands for.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 20:10:44 +0000 Peter comment 216211 at http://dagblog.com Agree http://dagblog.com/comment/216204#comment-216204 <a id="comment-216204"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216198#comment-216198">I do wish that the FBI had</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Agree</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:28:58 +0000 Flavius comment 216204 at http://dagblog.com I do wish that the FBI had http://dagblog.com/comment/216198#comment-216198 <a id="comment-216198"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/216195#comment-216195">He had little choice in</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I do wish that the FBI had not gone down that particular PR route.  If by terrorism we want to specifically mean people who are members of terrorist organizations emanating from the Middle East, then this wasn't it.  These are broken people doing broken people things.  Framing it as terrorism and then trying to walk it back doesn't work very well.  The association is out there. Two second later, Ted Cruz wants to actually nuke ISIS and Donald Trump wants to ban falafel.</p> </div></div></div> Tue, 08 Dec 2015 13:34:02 +0000 Michael Maiello comment 216198 at http://dagblog.com