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There is no technological

Peter — Thu, 17 Dec 2015 00:15:14 +0000

In reply to Your cynical answer may be

There is no technological solution to a crisis created by the use of industrial technology and the real cynics are those who sell this Big Green snake oil knowing that fact but expecting to benefit from the new industrial scale profit bonanza.

There is no way to stop GW with our present and ever growing gluttony of energy and materials along with almost universal rejection of the one idea that might slow GW, massive reduction of consumption of energy, mostly by the West. All the alternatives already built and what is to be built in the next few decades may only supply enough power to cover the growth in demand for new power above what we already use. Solar and wind power are certainly cleaner and greener than conventional sources of power in the long run but will require huge co2 emissions to build along with massive ecological disruption to mine and manufacture.

If we could dramatically reduce our consumption (wishful thinking) then solar and wind could be a practical, but not environmentally cost free, replacement for coal, Nuke and gas power generation and eventually electric powered transportation, also not environmentally cost free.

Thank you Mr, Smith.

Richard Day — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 19:18:13 +0000

In reply to More passe than one might

Thank you Mr, Smith.

I knew there was a history to this paen.

I recall an old Black (or in those days 'Negro') rendition.

These are just fine.

Again, thank you for these two renditions!

More passe than one might

MrSmith1 — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:58:06 +0000

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More passe than one might imagine, DD. When I first heard it, I had no idea how old a song it was. I thought it was written by Eric Burden and the Animals. There are some memorable versions down through the years ... This one is the earliest I could find:

Ronnie Gilbert of the Weavers did a woman's version of the song, which I like a lot, but this one, sung by torch singer. Libby Holman is probably my favorite.

I used to drive to South LA,

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:38:07 +0000

In reply to I missed this, but not by

I used to drive to South LA, and the sky would turn yellow around Irvine. China fixed that not God. Okay, maybe Cheech and Chong helped.

Your cynical answer may be

HSG — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 18:13:18 +0000

In reply to The story i recall was that

Your cynical answer may be satisfying and even accurate (although I disagree with your claim that solar is only viable due to ultra-cheap Chinese labor) but it lacks a proposed solution. What course do you recommend?

The story i recall was that

Peter — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:48:05 +0000

In reply to SPITE & THE ENVIRONMENT

The story i recall was that Ronnie or more probably Nancy didn't like the appearance, too Hippie, of the panels on the WH roof and it had little to do with rejecting the technology.

Carter on the other hand had them installed to impress and fool the environmentalists while he was really a Nuke man with a coal fixation.

Neither of these men's policies had much if any actual effect on the development of solar power. Solar power is viable now because its components aren't made in the US but mostly in China with very cheap labor and the economy of scale and lots of coal to power the process, some of which is imported from the US.

If you have seen the recent pictures of Beijing, where you can cut the air pollution with a knife, you see what is required to build our Clean Green future. Along with exporting our industrial jobs we have exported the pollution so we can over-consume without guilt

Richard - among the many here

HSG — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 17:23:46 +0000

In reply to HAL, you make my day!

Richard - among the many here who criticize me, your support (and Wattree's) brings to mind two distinct recollections:

1) A few months after I first began broadcasting in 2006, I told a veteran radio host of my surprise and delight at already having listeners and callers. He responded that no matter what market you're in and how miniscule your ratings, somebody somewhere will listen to you.

2) Even longer ago, I was listening to Howard Stern's broadcast of a beauty contest between the guys - Howard, Jackie, Fred, and Gary "Ba Ba Booie" Dellabotte. The judges were gay men who were instructed to select as winner the one to whom they were most attracted. After Howard came in last, he asked one of the judges why he lost. The judge responded that everybody is sexy to somebody. Howard's reply: "So you're saying if I got a thousand gay guys in here, one of them would think I was good looking."

I missed this, but not by

Richard Day — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 06:20:17 +0000

In reply to Silly Jimmy - he didn't

down!

I missed this, but not by

Richard Day — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 06:18:48 +0000

In reply to Silly Jimmy - he didn't

I missed this, but not by much....

hahahahahahahaha

Jimmy never smoked much, not like me anyway; I mean 90 is not an age that many reach--without good health care anyway.

Thank the Good Lord, China found its own smog all on its own. hahahahahah

Some of our citizens can breath easy in LA; as long as we keep our hands up and anger down!

Silly Jimmy - he didn't

PeraclesPlease — Tue, 15 Dec 2015 06:12:01 +0000

In reply to Ocean does indeed have a good

Silly Jimmy - he didn't realize that pitting 2 oil producers against each other in a blood 10-year war, along with occupying one of them afterwards, was a much more sustainable future than digging coal out of the ground and breathing it.

What was he smoking, damn peanut farmer. Real men don't dig - they drill and shoot.

Sending all our pollution to China was another stroke of genius - guess he was too caught up in post-Vietname syndrome to realize they could all be working for us.

[to be fair, he & Zbiggy were a bit more focused on defeating the huge $600 billion a year Soviet army, rather than pissing their pants over a few Mujaheddin. Real men put their junk in nuke silos and stare down tank turrets, not toss about roadside IUDs hoping someone will run over them]