dagblog - Comments for "Don't Ever Call the Cops: The Tamir Rice Story"

Fortunately Tarantino answers

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 11:13:18 +0000

Fortunately Tarantino answers your rhetorical question.

Even the police are not

Montag — Wed, 06 Jan 2016 09:10:12 +0000

In reply to Don't Ever Call the Cops: The Tamir Rice Story

Even the police are not properly trained to live and work in the new weaponized society that has been building since 2001. It's a new thing that needs new rules. How would police in Texas handle such an event, when it is possible that there could be 20 or 30 people near-by, all with guns evident?

Is this real or a copy or

PeraclesPlease — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 17:09:09 +0000

In reply to No you purposefully miss the

Is this real or a copy or just too bizarre? 1964 7-in-1 model over at Digbys, when boys were boys and wars were wars and everyone understood the purpose of fire power.

They will try in California,

rmrd0000 — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 13:07:57 +0000

In reply to You assume they will be able

They will try in California, other states may follow. We will see the results. I don't trust the police to follow an order. The choke hold used on Eric Garner was not NYPD policy. Garner was choked, there was no conviction. Police will shot if they are trained to shot rapidly before they can really focus on the color of an object. They arrive expecting to see danger, and they will see danger.

I would spend more time on getting independent prosecutors, not keeping bad cops, on the force, and retraining officers.

You assume they will be able

barefooted — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 07:03:23 +0000

In reply to Excellent point about the

You assume they will be able to determine a toy gun by color.

Honestly, rm, I'm not assuming anything. But I'm hoping that a cop's defense that a pink gun caused him to fear for his life might not be taken quite so seriously. And I'm hoping that a transparent or green gun might stop the murdering bullet-by-cop death in the first place.

Yes, sadly any good regulation or "rule" can be twisted by those with the intent to do so. But is that reason not to try?

Excellent point about the

rmrd0000 — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 06:20:04 +0000

In reply to http://www.theguardian.com/us

Excellent point about the deaths. California can be a test state for whether the color change is actually effective. I believe that in many cases cops would fire quickly. and would just see a potentially lethal object. I think cops are incompetent and poorly trained. You assume they will be able to determine a toy gun by color.

By the way there are multi-colored guns that are real. The link goes to an article that details the death of a child who shot himself with a real gun that was pink in color. It also pictures other real guns with pleasing colors

http://globalgrind.com/2013/02/06/real-guns-look-like-toys-photos/

Here is another article detailing the same problem.

http://smartgunlaws.org/sighting-the-homemade-gun-threat/

Multicolor does not mean the gun wont be considered real by law enforcement. Actually an enterprising criminal could create a business detailing guns to make them multi-color and "safe".

Aside from the fact that multi-color does not mean safe, we have the problem of open carry states. Real guns are legal in those localities

Sorry RM but Whitey's on the

Peter — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 04:04:02 +0000

In reply to The change is that the police

Sorry RM but Whitey's on the Moon, still and the rhetoric you hear is empty of action or any real admission of the problem being systemic.

http://www.theguardian.com/us

barefooted — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 03:02:51 +0000

In reply to Of the 18 officers charged

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/29/28-people-killed-bb-pelle...

It isn't simply a stat determined by officers charged, since obviously those numbers are woefully inadequate overall. It isn't just about Tamir Rice - he'd have been murdered if he was holding a doll (assuming someone found it threatening enough to call 911). It most certainly is not a panacea for anything. What it is is twofold: a) take away an easy police defense, and b) possibly save lives with a relatively simple change.

The change is that the police

rmrd0000 — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 02:44:06 +0000

In reply to You are correct on most of

The change is that the police are losing the total support they had in the white community

You are correct on most of

Peter — Sun, 03 Jan 2016 02:09:23 +0000

In reply to Of the 18 officers charged

You are correct on most of this topic but still don't seem to comprehend that the Cops are well trained and conditioned to perform their duty exactly as they are doing it now. Haven't you noticed how many of them, the latest the killer Rahm was protecting in Chicago, empty their weapon into their victims, this is a trained reaction to assist in their defense. Many of them have had FBI and other advanced training from private contractors including the Israelis. As we have seen for the last forty years more training and so called reforms have changed nothing for the better, in fact the carnage and repression have increased.

The real tell is that this carnage and repression is peaking after the violent crime rate has dropped dramatically from the highs of the seventies.