dagblog - Comments for "The Return of White Identity" http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237 Comments for "The Return of White Identity" en This was a very well written http://dagblog.com/comment/217350#comment-217350 <a id="comment-217350"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237">The Return of White Identity</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>This was a very well written piece. It spawned a lot of conversation, and that's how i judge good writing. Have a great day. Peace!</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 22:15:36 +0000 Danny Cardwell comment 217350 at http://dagblog.com Rob, I really admire the http://dagblog.com/comment/217347#comment-217347 <a id="comment-217347"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/217321#comment-217321">I grew up not wanting any</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Rob, I really admire the candor in your comments. I have to respectfully push back on the notion that the humanities is distancing itself from Europe. If you look at any Philosophy Syllabus from Freshman year 101 through Graduate school you would find yourself reading some of the finest text ever written by European thinkers. It's impossible to be educated in sociology, psychology, or economics without encountering Eurocentric ideas. There's only a handful of texts written by black thinkers the average undergrad has to engage. I don't know how you could study Anthropology and not deal with Europe. Every time someone posits we are at the end of history that history ends with Eurocentric ideas. Hegel thought that History ended in the 19th century with the Prussian state. Fukuyama thought that Liberal Democracy was where the progression of mankind ended. By comparison, every thing I learned about black people can be summed up by saying blacks were slaves, Lincoln freed them, and Martin had a dream. If it wasn't for the university many kids would think that slavery was the beginning of black history. Thanks for commenting on this very well written post. Have a great day!</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 22:12:35 +0000 Danny Cardwell comment 217347 at http://dagblog.com The decline in the general http://dagblog.com/comment/217333#comment-217333 <a id="comment-217333"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/217321#comment-217321">I grew up not wanting any</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>The decline in the general education of Liberal Arts is not caused by policies of inclusiveness but a broad acceptance that a <a href="http://agb.org/trusteeship/2014/1/liberal-education-vs-professional-education-false-choice">Liberal education is the antithesis of a Professional one</a>. The utilitarian emphasis comes from many directions but many Conservatives provide plenty of support for the tendency:</p> <blockquote> <p>For example, in 2011, Governor Rick Perry (R) of Texas challenged his state’s universities to develop a $10,000 four-year bachelor’s degree. One of his solutions to the high cost of a college degree was to prioritize state funding for teaching over research and to fund studies in STEM fields over philosophy, history, and other humanities disciplines or social-science programs like political science and sociology. That same year, Governor Rick Scott (R) of Florida adopted Perry’s “solutions” when he called for Florida legislators to shift state appropriations and offer $10,000 degrees to students with STEM and other “job-friendly” degrees while charging higher tuition for degrees in the humanities and social sciences.</p> <p>Similarly, North Carolina governor Patrick McCrory (R) announced in January 2013 that he would try to fund state universities based on “post-graduate employment” rather than enrollments. In a radio interview with former U.S. Secretary of Education William J. Bennett, McCrory said that state support should “not be based on butts in seats but on how many of those butts can get jobs.” (Perhaps ironically, Bennett and McCrory both received their B.A. degrees from liberal-arts colleges—Williams College and Catawba College, respectively—that still require each student to take general studies in the humanities, social sciences, and sciences.)</p> </blockquote> <p>As for your assertion that inclusiveness has led to a decline of standards, it certainly doesn't apply to any of the colleges my kid applied to. They were incredibly competitive. Perhaps we live on different planets.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 17:44:52 +0000 moat comment 217333 at http://dagblog.com You cannot get through http://dagblog.com/comment/217323#comment-217323 <a id="comment-217323"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/217321#comment-217321">I grew up not wanting any</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>You cannot get through Harvard without a European history course.</p> <p>Current AP testing includes European History</p> <p><a href="https://advancesinap.collegeboard.org/english-history-and-social-science/european-history">https://advancesinap.collegeboard.org/english-history-and-social-science...</a></p> <p>​Edit to add:</p> <p>The limited available history courses at your daughter's college seem strange. Can you provide us a link to the college's requirements for graduation? </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 16:07:09 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 217323 at http://dagblog.com I grew up not wanting any http://dagblog.com/comment/217321#comment-217321 <a id="comment-217321"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237">The Return of White Identity</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>I grew up not wanting any part of the race issue.  I remember the neighbor kids using racial slurs and making an effort to demean black people and recoiling at how they demeaned people they, and I, didn't even know.</p> <p>I may not have been interested in the race issue, but the race issue was interested in me.  Growing up, I saw the dystopic effects of state subsidized single motherhood and liberal parenting and "non-judgmentalism" and anti-intellectualism and low standards.  I went to a nice liberal arts college in New England in the 1990's and was shouted down for my criticism of the new American culture of bastardy and low standards.  They used the term "racist" to try to make me shut up, even though my critique had nothing to do with race and is a problem across the board.</p> <p>Liberals cried for free speech and inclusiveness when they didn't have power.  Now that they have power, they took away free speech from their enemies, and removed the study of European history and literature from the colleges.  I took a lot of courses in European history and lit in college; now my daughter is in college and all they offer in the way of humanities is African-American studies, Womens' Studies, and African-American women's studies.  They cried for inclusiveness, but once they got in, they elbowed out anything to do with European studies.  Professors who taught Eurocentric subjects retired and were not replaced.  White kids whose families foot the bill are deprived of studying their own cultural heritage, which is the very cultural heritage that made civilization possible in the first place.  Without Francis Bacon and Isaac Newton you wouldn't have drinkable tap water and dentistry and sophisticated medical treatment.</p> <p>Liberals have seized civilization and do not share power at all with the traditionalist right.  We are excluded from any jobs in education or public influence or governing.  The liberals outlawed their opposition and have given themselves a lot of cushy sinecures, while the world burns.</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:00:43 +0000 Rob comment 217321 at http://dagblog.com It is difficult to make out http://dagblog.com/comment/217306#comment-217306 <a id="comment-217306"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/comment/217305#comment-217305">myth is reality and people</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>It is difficult to make out what you are saying here but it bears mentioning that both of your sentences are only possible because of professors who developed fields of studies.</p> <p>For instance, the following observation about the evolution of humans comes from (and could only come from) a bunch of <a href="http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/genetics">scientists</a>:</p> <blockquote> <p>The strong similarities between humans and the African great apes led Charles Darwin in 1871 to predict that Africa was the likely place where the human lineage branched off from other animals – that is, the place where the common ancestor of chimpanzees, humans, and gorillas once lived. The DNA evidence shows an amazing confirmation of this daring prediction. The African great apes, including humans, have a closer kinship bond with one another than the African apes have with orangutans or other primates. Hardly ever has a scientific prediction so bold, so ‘out there’ for its time, been upheld as the one made in 1871 – that human evolution began in Africa.</p> </blockquote> <p>Biologically speaking, the differences between humans are very small. Was that your point?</p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 01:22:42 +0000 moat comment 217306 at http://dagblog.com myth is reality and people http://dagblog.com/comment/217305#comment-217305 <a id="comment-217305"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237">The Return of White Identity</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>myth is reality and people belong to tribes. Pasty face professors can't change evoluton or biology. </p> </div></div></div> Fri, 15 Jan 2016 00:09:50 +0000 sean comment 217305 at http://dagblog.com White Nationalism never went http://dagblog.com/comment/217282#comment-217282 <a id="comment-217282"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237">The Return of White Identity</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>White Nationalism never went away. Ronald Reagan talked about states rights in the campaign he began in Philadelphia, Mississippi, the area where three Civil Rights workers were murdered. Reagan labeled those on welfare as lazy thieves driving around in Cadillacs. Because, the poor are seen as black, they have been the targets of stripping away the safety net. Food stamps have to be slashed because lazy poor people are stealing money from hard working white folks. Black students are lazy, we don't have to keep their neighborhood schools up to par. Blacks commit voter fraud so we have to enforce bias identification laws to crush the black vote. Once we have white Conservative legislatures, we can use gerrymandering to rig the vote.</p> <p>The election of Barack Obama caused the Nationalists to lose their collective minds. They are now saying openly what they used dog-whistles to say in the past. Nationalists were given a pass by media and the public. Donald Trump got to stay on television despite questionable statements about race. Pat Buchanan was reluctantly released by NBC despite years of racist statements. Rush Limbaugh was brought to ESPN despite his racist history. ESPN executives feigned surprise when he made a racist statement about black quarterbacks. Bill Mahrer has his good buddy, racist Ann Coulter on his show specifically to aggravate Liberals and he knows that he will face no penalty.</p> <p>The Nationalists never went away, they were allowed into our homes with the blessing of the public. The racist Governor of Maine was re-elected. The Governor of Michigan served as Grand Wizard over black towns, appointing "special masters" to act as overseers. Now that he has poisoned a town, there is outrage.</p> <p>Trump is no surprise. Trump of the result of decades of playing "patty cake, patty cake" with racists. We were too politically correct to put a name on the evil staring us in the face. Now we act as if the racists have magically appeared before us.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:00:02 +0000 rmrd0000 comment 217282 at http://dagblog.com Neoreaction and the alt-right http://dagblog.com/comment/217272#comment-217272 <a id="comment-217272"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237">The Return of White Identity</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>Neoreaction and the alt-right are quite different, though people often (1) just lump all the far-right groups together, and (2) classify individuals under incorrect far-right subcultures. For example, Invictus is not "neo-reactionary," as neoreaction is a very specific sub-culture of the 'deep right' that is very insular.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Jan 2016 03:37:47 +0000 Hadley comment 217272 at http://dagblog.com In terms of ethnic http://dagblog.com/comment/217270#comment-217270 <a id="comment-217270"></a> <p><em>In reply to <a href="http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/return-white-identity-20237">The Return of White Identity</a></em></p> <div class="field field-name-comment-body field-type-text-long field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even"><p>In terms of ethnic identifications, the original "whiteness" was not as specific as the identity of the black people who could be enslaved because of their race. Ellison pretty much entirely explained this in his book:  <u>Invisible Man</u>. The negation was the center.</p> <p>Having political figures openly appeal to racial, religious, or what have you points of shared identity is a cause for alarm. It has been going on continuously since the "Civil Rights Era."</p> <p>We are still in the Civil Rights era.</p> </div></div></div> Thu, 14 Jan 2016 03:25:58 +0000 moat comment 217270 at http://dagblog.com