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You ignorant twit

jollyroger — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 22:40:30 +0000

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You ignorant twit

You: IS will control the

jollyroger — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 22:36:24 +0000

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You: IS will control the world's oil !!!!!

Me: Bullshit

You: Van Buren is a schmuck, and so is Roger

Me: More bullshit.

Reading VB's second rate

Peter — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 16:30:05 +0000

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Reading VB's second rate rambling and schitzo message is getting boring and beginning to remind me of Eastwood lecturing to an empty chair. You may have missed the glaring contradiction in this expanded excerpt where he tells us that we need to bomb the hell out of civilian truck drivers and Syrian oil fields and then cut and run back to the safe homeland where we need to treat our tame and good Muslims better.

His nostrums for shutting down the oil trade in Syria, besides blowing it up, just show he never had a real job or understands how the mercantile world operates or even how the IS is financed.

Next time you might use Sy Hersh as an example of a nutty messenger who at least used to appear to be a first rate reporter.

jollyroger — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 02:10:22 +0000

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We Have to Do Something So here’s what you might suggest that your candidate do, because you know that s/he will demand to “do something.” Start by suggesting that, as a society, we take a deep look at ourselves, our leaders, and our media, and stop fanning everyone’s flames. It’s time, among other things, to stop harassing and discriminating against our own Muslim population, only to stand by slack-jawed as a few of them become radicalized, and Washington then blames Twitter. As president, you need to opt out of all this, and dissuade others from buying into it. As for the Islamic State itself, it can’t survive, never mind fight, without funds. So candidate, it’s time to man/woman up, and go after the real sources of funding. As long as the U.S. insists on flying air attack sorties (and your candidate may unfortunately need to do so to cover his/her right flank), direct them far more intensely than at present against one of ISIS’s main sources of cash: oil exports. Blow up trucks moving oil. Blow up wellheads in ISIS-dominated areas. Finding targets is not hard. The Russians released reconnaissance photos showing what they claimed were 12,000 trucks loaded with smuggled oil, backed up near the Turkish border. But remind your candidate that this would not be an expansion of the air war or a shifting from one bombing campaign to a new one. It would be a short-term move, with a defined end point of shutting down the flow of oil. It would only be one part of a far larger effort to shut down ISIS’s sources of funds. Next, use whatever diplomatic and economic pressure is available to make it clear to whomever in Turkey that it’s time to stop facilitating the flow of that ISIS oil onto the black market. Then wield that same diplomatic and economic pressure to force buyers to stop purchasing it. Some reports suggest that Israel, cut off from most Arab sources of oil, has become a major buyer of ISIS’s supplies. If so, step on some allied toes. C’mon, someone is buying all that black-market black gold. The same should go for Turkey’s behavior toward ISIS. That would extend from its determination to fight Kurdish forces fighting ISIS to the way it’s allowed jihadis to enter Syria through its territory to the way it’s funneled arms to various extreme Islamic groups in that country. Engage Turkey’s fellow NATO members. Let them do some of the heavy lifting. They have a dog in this fight, too. And speaking of stepping on allied toes, make it clear to the Saudis and other Sunni Persian Gulf states that they must stop sending money to ISIS. Yes, we’re told that this flow of “donations” comes from private citizens, not the Saudi government or those of its neighbors. Even so, they should be capable of exerting pressure to close the valve. Forget a “no-fly zone” over northern Syria — another fruitless “solution” to the problem of the Islamic State that various presidential candidates are now plugging — and use the international banking system to create a no-flow zone. You may not be able to stop every buck from reaching ISIS, but most of it will do in a situation where every dollar counts. Your candidate will obviously then ask you, “What else? There must be more we can do, mustn’t there?” To this, your answer should be blunt: Get out. Land the planes, ground the drones, and withdraw. Pull out the boots, the trainers, the American combatants and near combatants (whatever the euphemism of the moment for them may be). Anybody who has ever listened to a country and western song knows that there’s always a time to step away from the table and cut your losses. Throwing more money (lives, global prestige…) into the pot won’t alter the cards you’re holding. All you’re doing is postponing the inevitable at great cost. In the end, there is nothing the United States can do about the processes now underway in the Middle East except stand on the beach trying to push back the waves. This is history talking to us.

Thus far, to review the

jollyroger — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:14:46 +0000

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Thus far, to review the bidding:

I offered Van Buren's conclusion--do nothing in pursuit of the geopolitical desiderata of the post otttoman post soviet era.

you thought this would lead to IS taking over the worlds' oil

I said "But Persia"

And you say?

< The only Israeli I read,

jollyroger — Wed, 27 Jan 2016 01:11:21 +0000

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< The only Israeli I read, respect or would defend is Uri Avnery

Well, this is a fascinating surprise--(you might ask yourself in passing how it could be, exactly, that a person who admires the estimable Uri could get his scrawny shit talkin' ass mistaken for a hasbara apparatchik.)

But I digress.

What I mean to say is that since you invoke Avnery's name, I will try and walk this with you step by step given that we appear to be having trouble making ourselves understood.

A crude but trenchant index is provi9ded, incidentally, by a simple word count algorithm applied to your perorations thus far, vis-a-vis the extraordinary surplus of ad hominem atttacks upon this or that player or analyst vs. substantive discussion directed at the hypothetical with which I'm sure you recall Van Buren begins his analysis--

you are the adviser to the candidate in whom he places trust on this issue. Advise him.

Very Very lame response JR

Peter — Tue, 26 Jan 2016 20:10:33 +0000

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Very Very lame response JR but typical and predictable. The only Israeli I read, respect or would defend is Uri Avnery but I'm sure there are a few others worthy of support.

The real depredations committed by Israel are sufficient to condemn them but fantasies and dim witted fables offered by not very clever Iranian propagandists and parroted by their rube believers only make those who write or believe them appear slow and fools.

I'll leave the huffing and flouncing to an expert, you!

As I said, the Israelis are

jollyroger — Tue, 26 Jan 2016 18:40:50 +0000

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As I said, the Israelis are pissed off beyond all power to describe.

I understand now the huffing and flouncing.

We have our own hasbarachik.

I doubt you are up to the

Peter — Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:51:16 +0000

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I doubt you are up to the task of defending PVB from my 'message' assassination and I wonder who's messenger he actually is.

VB is/was a career State Department operative, for 23 years, but in one of his missives last year he identified the CIA compound in Benghazi as a US State Department Consulate and when i challenged him about this misdirection he defended his white lie as common usage or some other nonsense. That was the last word from this messenger I could trust or defend because if after a long career at State he doesn't know what a consulate is or isn't he is stupid or more likely he has an agenda that supports something other than the truth. His parroting the Gulf Monarchies/Islamic State alliance rumors is just more proof of his unreliability as a messenger.

You look sooo.. umm... well

tmccarthy0 — Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:35:08 +0000

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You look sooo.. umm... well nice hat! LOL, I had to hide my laughter at work when I saw that pic, I nearly choked on my coffee. Nicely done JR.