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The water filters provided by

rmrd0000 — Sat, 30 Jan 2016 02:33:11 +0000

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The water filters provided by the government are rated to clear lead levels up to 150 parts per billion. Lead levels in the homes ranged from 153-4000 ppb. The filters are not protective.

http://www.wired.com/2016/01/heres-how-hard-it-will-be-to-unpoison-flint...

Since you provide no support

rmrd0000 — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 19:28:25 +0000

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Since you provide no support for your statement about poisoning, we have no reason to trust your analysis.

Here is a link that includes commentary from physicians.

http://www.wired.com/2016/01/flints-high-lead-levels-have-doctors-strugg...

A prior study suggests that chelation therapy does not impact neurobehavioral function.

Pediatricians are concerned about the tripling of lead levels in the children of Flint. You offer no reference that supports your claim of one "poisoned" child. Provide a link. There is no way you can prove what your level of exposure to lead was as a child. Your statements are not believable.

Edit to add:

Here is a paper from the New England Journal of Medicine in 2003 documenting the neurobehavioral impact of even low levels of lead in the blood of children. Your statement that you found only one case of poisoning reflects your lack of knowledge of the medical literature.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa022848

Here is a summary of the impact of lead on children from a section of the CDC

http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/csem/csem.asp?csem=7&po=10

Again low levels of lead are dangerous.

Show us the data used to support your contention that there was only one case of poisoning. You can't, can you?

I would have hoped with your

Peter — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 17:17:04 +0000

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I would have hoped with your background that you wouldn't stoop to cheap shots and outright lies about my comments. The only argument I attempted to construct was based on facts and my impressions of the hyperbole and spin some people are using to describe and ride this avoidable public health failure.

I've only found one report of a blood test that can be described as lead poisoning, one is too many and the 6-10% who have elevated levels is also unacceptable but most of Flints residents including children were not poisoned or even affected by high lead levels, that is good news and those that were should not be badly affected by their low level exposure. You and I were probably exposed to much higher levels of lead during the years of widespread high levels of lead in the environment.

If you're looking for someone to point a finger at,about 'lead poisoning isn't that bad' you might address the EPA who sent a memo to Flint about the effects of using untreated corrosive water before the switch and then retracted it and advised them to check back in a 'year'. The local Flint water experts and the MDEQ also failed in their duties, knowing about the effects of corrosive water on lead pipes yet doing nothing to treat the water.

The politicians are certainly responsible for their poor response to the problem and may even be held accountable but that is probably wishful thinking.

Peter is our Roseanne

rmrd0000 — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 13:27:46 +0000

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Peter is our Roseanne Roseannadanna

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseanne_Roseannadanna

I'm applaud Peter's ambition

Danny Cardwell — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 05:26:27 +0000

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I'm applaud Peter's ambition and determination. He believes he can construct an argument sound enough to convince the people who've read and commented on this post that lead poisoning isn't that bad.

KUDOS TO YOU!

I'm applaud Peter's ambition

Danny Cardwell — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 05:26:09 +0000

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I'm applaud Peter's ambition

Danny Cardwell — Fri, 29 Jan 2016 05:25:49 +0000

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It's all right, Peter. We

Ramona — Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:18:21 +0000

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It's all right, Peter. We don't need your sympathy. We'll get along fine without it.

Your only role appears to be

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Jan 2016 20:13:58 +0000

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Your only role appears to be that of a constant critic with nothing of value to add.

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When a person has given up, they will never find anything satisfactory.

Why worry about high lead levels? Children had higher lead levels in the past ( even though there was an argument that nothing was done). Just because lead effects brain cells, and there is no safe lead, why all this Liberal concern. Liberals caused this problem because they agreed to a cost cutting measure under the thumb of an emergency manager. The Liberals even drank a toast to taking a step to getting the Governor's Esso bee off their backs. The government agencies and the Governor screwed up. This entire episode shows that nothing works and all hope is gone.

There won't be anyone who looks for lead levels in other cities. What that is happening. There won't be an effort to challenge the emergency manager law. Oh, that is happening? Oh well, sigh...... Rahm Emanuel.

Life sucks.

I don't need to provide links because I already know the truth.Except when it comes to MLK, Marx, the 1994 Crime Bill, lead poisoning, Michigan...............

Your argument is that home

rmrd0000 — Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:14:30 +0000

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Your argument is that home lead levels and lead emissions fro cars spiked?

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I am not clear what you are trying to say. You provide no data. If you are saying that we lived with high blood levels in the past, we should celebrate the lower lead levels now. If that is the point, it ignores the data that lead appears connected to impaired cerebral function. Since there is no known bottom level that has found to be safe we should be concerned when lead levels rise. I doubt that you would be dispassionate if your child high the new, improved levels of lead.

Both Detroit and Flint were pressured into drastic cuts. You say they simply had play by adult rules, yet you criticize them when they played by the rules laid out by the emergency manager.