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Yep, you got it. Sanders runs

rmrd0000 — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 23:19:12 +0000

Yep, you got it. Sanders runs as the anti-Obama and gets steamrollered by black voters pulling the lever for Hillary. The black Sanders supporters go down the voting drain with Sanders. It is called solvent drag. We will see if I am correct when we get to South Carolina.

We're not little pansies--you

Ramona — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:38:15 +0000

In reply to R - I will bear this in mind

We're not little pansies--you may have noticed--so it has nothing to do with sensibilities, it has to do with knowing when to quit. But that works both ways. If I don't respond to your questions about Hillary, please don't take it personally. Thanks.

I questioned whether being a

ocean-kat — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:28:15 +0000

In reply to I did not question whether

I questioned whether being a woman is enough because: 1) The pro-Hillary Wellesley students explained their support to the Washington Post by saying they were excited at the prospect of a woman President

I'm also excited at the prospect of a woman president. Just as I was excited about the prospect of a black president. But your question to ramona wasn't if she was excited but, ""Is her sex alone a good enough reason Ramona?"

How many of those Wellesley students who are excited at the prospect of a women president stated that it was "alone a good enough" reason they supported Hillary? How many stated it was the main reason?

That gender alone is the reason is your strawman and it insults Hillary's supporters. Race and gender only affect votes at the margins. After policy positions are met they may be a factor. Blacks weren't excited to vote for Herman Cain and women weren't excited to vote for Michelle Bachman. Policy is still the main reason for a person's vote.

R - I will bear this in mind

HSG — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:24:22 +0000

In reply to I appreciate the apology, Hal

R - I will bear this in mind going forward and try to be more mindful of my audience's sensibilities here and elsewhere. Thanks.

Ramona - I am very sorry that

HSG — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:23:16 +0000

In reply to Oddly enough, I feel insulted

Ramona - I am very sorry that you took what I wrote as a personal insult. I certainly did not intend it as such. You asked me to explain why Hillary has as much support as she does and I tried to answer as well as I could. I note that I do not claim that every Clinton supporter falls into every one of the categories or even into any one of the categories. I do apologize for any misunderstanding there.

In fact, I fall into most of those categories. I do not think saying somebody is in one or more of the categories is in itself pejorative either. Do you really believe implying you may fall into some of these general categories is anywhere near as insulting as your calling me or my comment "pathetic"?

Boy do I feel stupid now.

HSG — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:21:28 +0000

In reply to You took the bait. Obama is

Boy do I feel stupid now. Let me get this straight since I'm obviously not sharp enough to step over your traps. 1) Cornel West is too radical and doesn't get how great Obama is for getting some things done despite having to deal with a right-wing Congress. 2) Ben Jealous and the NAACP are too meek and don't fight hard enough for black folks including Sherrod so Jealous's endorsement of Sanders can be disregarded. 3) On the other hand, Obama's approval of the Sherrod dismissal was a forgivable error. 4) Black Lives Matter (I assume) is the activist group that is ahead of the NAACP when it comes to protesting police murders of blacks.

Help me with something here: I think you're saying that BLM is better than Ben Jealous who endorsed Sanders. But BLM activist Shaun King has endorsed Sanders as has Erica Garner, Eric Garner's daughter, who is also a BLM activist. Also BLM offshoot Campaign Zero rates Sanders as better than Clinton. So what's going on here. The meek NAACP ex-Prez Jealous endorses Sanders but so do more active and assertive BLM activists. Too radical anti-Obama Cornel West endorses Sanders but a member of a more mainstream group does too. It is a little confusing but I think I get it. They all support Sanders!

I did not question whether

HSG — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:07:01 +0000

In reply to Of course I read and take

I did not question whether being a woman is enough because I believe that is your or Ramona's position. I questioned whether being a woman is enough because: 1) The pro-Hillary Wellesley students explained their support to the Washington Post by saying they were excited at the prospect of a woman President. 2) Joan Walsh's endorsement in the Nation focuses almost entirely on Clinton's sex and the alleged sexism of Sanders and his supporters. To the extent she addresses other issues, she admits that there are legitimate concerns about Hillary's connections to Wall Street and her pro-war votes. 3) Emily's List has three criteria for endorsing and supporting candidates: 1) They're women. 2) They're Democrats. 3) They're pro-choice.

Regarding the reinstatement of Glass-Steagall, you argue here and elsewhere that Elizabeth Warren has "admitted" it wouldn't have stopped 2008 crash. While she may have admitted that at one point, she still strongly supports reinstatement and has made several statements that indicate she believes it likely would have prevented the meltdown. In any event, the case for reinstatement does not rest solely on the argument that it would have prevented the financial crisis in 2008.

A few of Elizabeth Warren's statements on the repeal of and reinstating Glass-Steagall:

1) "That high wall between high-risk trading and boring banking was punched full of holes until in the late 1990s, it was knocked down when Glass-Steagall was eventually repealed," she said. "And not long after that, the worst crash since the 1930s hit the American economy." 7/13/15

2) "The new Glass-Steagall Act would would reduce failures of the big banks by making banking boring, protecting deposits, and providing stability to the system even in bad times. And it would reduce 'too big' by dismantling the behemoths, so that big banks would still be big—but not too big to fail or, for that matter, too big to manage, too big to regulate, too big for trial, or too big for jail." 11/12/13

3) "Under Glass-Steagall, commercial banks, which take deposits from consumers, were prohibited from underwriting most types of securities; investment banks were allowed to underwrite securities, but could not receive deposits. The Glass-Steagall Act's regulations came under heavy attack starting in the 1980s and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act repealed its core provisions in 1999.

Wall Street's risky bets nearly brought the economy to its knees in 2008, but instead of taking responsibility, Wall Street lobbied to water down the Dodd-Frank financial reforms of 2010 and fought to weaken the reforms Congress passed.

By making banks smaller, a new Glass-Steagall could also help put an end to banks that are 'too big to fail' -- further avoiding costly taxpayer bailouts[.]" 5/4/12

I appreciate the apology, Hal

Ramona — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:05:35 +0000

In reply to Ramona - I am very sorry that

I appreciate the apology, Hal. Thank you. What made what you wrote "pathetic" was the sureness of it. There were no grey areas, no maybe. Just--this is who Hillary supporters are.

You might need to think about your audience before you try to engage us. That way we might not feel the need to take what you say personally.

You took the bait. Obama is

rmrd0000 — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 22:03:53 +0000

In reply to Wasn't it Obama or at least a

You took the bait. Obama is viewed positively by black voters. Shirley Sherrod was an admitted mistake. The NAACP is known for criticizing Sherrod, for being meek when it came to the Confederate flag, and coming in second to other activists on murders of black citizens by police. Ben Jealous's endorsement will have little impact on most black voters.

Sanders is running as the anti-Obama, a losing strategy.

If you're interested, why don

PeraclesPlease — Thu, 04 Feb 2016 21:38:33 +0000

In reply to Just to close this loop and

If you're interested, why don't you read the links and texts I post?