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Especially when we must

barefooted — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 03:56:19 +0000

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Especially when we must remember that the majority of the public at the time they're asked rarely lean toward revolutionary change.

That was my point, and it's been proven throughout history when any civil rights or equality issue has been put to a public referendum.

"Why am I asking these questions out loud when I really should be learning more first?"

That was your point, though perhaps I misunderstand. Honestly? Both questions and learning are necessary, and both should be challenged. Learning is never stagnant because asking questions leads to more of it.

Sounds like a very expensive

barefooted — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:04:54 +0000

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Sounds like a very expensive fix.

I was trying to fix a

Flavius — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 13:28:18 +0000

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I was trying to fix a communication system at a remote location. .It had been struck by lightening.

I hired a retired specialist in systems like that. .He started by painting the exterior of the equipment shed,,putting in better lights,and other things that didn't seem to me to be on the "critical path",.When I asked why he said: "First I fix anything that's wrong,"

Or as Goethe said "Only begin".

More to the point...we're all

LisB — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:43:21 +0000

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More to the point...we're all leaning toward very revolutionary change.

Hop aboard!

When someone asks, "But if...

LisB — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:41:10 +0000

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When someone asks, "But if...." and then says, "especially when"...and yet they don't have an answer, but only more questions...someone needs to ask themselves first, "Why am I asking these questions out loud when I really should be learning more first?".

But if the bottom line is

barefooted — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 06:50:54 +0000

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But if the bottom line is that whoever holds the popular opinion at any time holds the power, where is the alignment to be found? Especially when we must remember that the majority of the public at the time they're asked rarely lean toward revolutionary change.

Flavius — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 05:00:34 +0000

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Every business behaves immorally.Not all the time. But for sure, when the chips are down. Capitalism results in many good things for a society but is too great a temptation for individuals and corrupts those involved. Chances are they remain corrupted if they enter politics. You can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Absolute power of course corrupts absolutely. If the poor ,middle-class or disenfranchised are given absolute power they'll be corrupted.Absolutely,

Limited power would also corrupt the p,m-c or d as all power does. I'm sufficiently optimistic that I think they'd be slower to become seriously corrupt than a business executive trained by a life time of corporate corruption .

Don't get me started about religious leaders.

Hmmm. That's really

barefooted — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:51:46 +0000

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Hmmm. That's really interesting, Flavius.

Is it a given that poor, middle-class or disenfranchised people would be better leaders because of circumstance or morality? What determines whether a leader, and/or their supporters would be "better" overall?

I agree your narrowing my

Flavius — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 03:34:35 +0000

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Michael,

I agree with 'your narrowing my diatribe about human nature to focus on what you see as the prime concern, power goes to people at the top.

Then broaden again The power that is flowing to the people at the top will -not may- be misused .

If the people at the top were Albert Schweizer or even dare I say BarakObama there'd be some chance that it wouldn't be misused.But in fact the top people will misuse power as Lord Acton said they would for why he said they would. And I go a step further Those with absolute power aren't corrupted by it.Because they were already corrupted. That's what got them there.

As to your implicit position that things would be better if the rules didn't benefit the rich. Paraphrasing -backwards- Scott Fitzgerald and Hemingway

SF: The very poor are different from you and me

Hem: Yes,they have less money.

How do we elect politicians

ocean-kat — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 19:43:44 +0000

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How do we elect politicians who offer more than lip service about campaign finance reform.? That's the whole point. Republicans are rolling in money like it's a bed of roses and they are winning most of the time. It doesn't appear to me that democrats will win more seats in congress, state houses, or governors without sufficient money to match their republican opposition. I'm so pure doesn't seem to be a winning argument. No democrat is happy about the amount of money the Supreme Court released into the political process. No democrat was happy about the money in politics before the Supreme Court opened the flood gates. No democrat is complacent. But some of us don't see unilateral disarmament as the solution. Nor do we see attacks against democrats for a lack of purity as the best way to get the change we all want.