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If Bernie loses, is he going

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:22:13 +0000

In reply to I'm tired of nonsense. It is

If Bernie loses, is he going to work to elect other Democrats to provide forces for the revolution? Is he going to encourage donating to the Democratic Party to create viable Congressional candidates? Is Sanders going to encourage white Progressive outreach to the black community?

Or will Sanders go back to being an Independent?

Word!

armchair guerrilla — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:44:51 +0000

In reply to The Obama-Clinton fight

Word!

I'm tired of nonsense. It is

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 16:03:11 +0000

In reply to The Obama-Clinton fight

I'm tired of nonsense. It is Bernie a Sanders' fault that he doesn't have more black support. It's Bernie Sanders fault that he made a jackass like Cornel West his surrogate. It's Bernie a Sanders' fault that he is not best buddies with Jim Clyburn and John Lewis, Elizabeth Warren should learn from the mistakes of Bernie Sanders.

Im tired of turning on my TV and watching pundit after pundit try to ignore Donald Trump's racism by saying that he is moving towards the middle for the General Election like nothing happened.

Instead of focusing on Hillary and the black community. Sanders supporters should have told him early on about his mistakes. It may be that by choosing a Black Lives Matter person as his communications director, he was mislead about the toxicity of Cornel West.

Regarding Republicans, all of them have become my enemy because they were silent as the racists in the GOP were tolerated. They were silent about voter suppression and the insults hurled at the President. You got Trump because you wanted "your" country back. The country is not going backwards, so screw all of you.

The Obama-Clinton fight

rmrd0000 — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:44:32 +0000

In reply to "African Americans have put

The Obama-Clinton fight demonstrated that the Democratic Party was strong enough to have a battle about race and move on.Clinton was Obama's Secretary of State. Clinton would have been accepted as Obama's VP. Hillary supporters accepted Obama. Obama supporters accepted Hillary. Blacks have always been politically mature. When Al Sharpton ran for President, he lost the black vote to Bill Bradley even in his home town of NYC. Hillary

Many white Progressives have no clue about the desires of the black community. When frustrated, they will say that blacks voted for Obama because of race. This ignores the fact that blacks chose Bradley over Sharpton and stayed loyal to Bill Clinton during his impeachment.

Some Progressives like Nader and Sanders thought it would be a good idea to mount a Primary challenge to Obama's second term. There were Progressives like Ed Shultz and Michael Moore who suggested that Democrats stay home in 2010. This ushered in the Tea Party, voter suppression, and opened the path for Donald Trump.

Blacks have never seen Ralph Nader, Bernie Sanders, or Elizabeth Warren speak directly to them. Now Sanders comes begging for votes. He placed Cornel West an over the top critic of President Obama as his campaign's outreach to the black community. The fact that West was his first black surrogate pointed out that Sanders had zero understanding of the black community.

The thing that has to be questioned here is why some Progressives think that talking to all-white audiences is the norm. Hillary is a known entity in the black community. Hillary met with the Mayor of Flint, Michigan. Where is Bernie? Hillary has the black church on her side. Cornel West and Blacks Lives Matter cannot compete with the power of the Black church.

What racism, Hal? Bill

PeraclesPlease — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:18:56 +0000

In reply to "African Americans have put

What racism, Hal? Bill referred to a speech as a "fairy tale". Hillary made mention of Jesse Jackson as a previously successful black candidate in South Carolina. Hey, Orlando Patterson compared her 3am ad to the KKK-applauding "Birth of a Nation" Because she didn't show a black child in the commercial. Got any other silly shit to add?Is any of this nonsense worth re-writing 8 years later?

Interviews with blacks in SC showed they were very clear about why they were voting for Hillary for I think mature enough reasons. I know it's comforting to dismiss them as little children who don't know what's in their own best interest, but how about just stop already?

"African Americans have put

HSG — Wed, 02 Mar 2016 13:31:32 +0000

In reply to This is silly. You turn a

"African Americans have put what ever hurt and anger from that fight behind them and voted for Hillary." Given Clinton's history, including but not limited to the racism in her 2008 campaign, why do you view the willingness of most African-American voters to vote for Hillary instead of Bernie as demonstrating maturity?

Since I dealt this mess let

Flavius — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 15:38:45 +0000

In reply to I guess I'm supposed to

Since I dealt this mess let me comment that I welcome anything either of you wish to say. Preferably if thery're not attacks on each other. But if that's what you want to do, so be it.

I assume about you, and about everyone else who comments on a post of mine that you're posting in good faith.. But if not, again, so be it. It's a free country.

I guess I'm supposed to

Peter — Tue, 01 Mar 2016 01:30:56 +0000

In reply to And yet Michael W. only

I guess I'm supposed to cringe because the heavyweight Train has thrown down the gauntlet but i wait with anticipation for his 'facts', or are they beliefs, memes and other diversions, that will change the stark reality facing the Liberal peanut gallery.

He, I presume, has already shown his weakness and pettiness by beginning with a personal and fact-free attack.

And yet Michael W. only

Austin Train — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 21:18:01 +0000

In reply to The reason we request links

And yet Michael W. only voices concern when troublemakers or front-page "golden children" are gone after.

"Peter", living as he does in his fact-free zone, and lacking even the integrity to sign in and verify himself, is allowed to roam free, spewing random errors (with the greatest benefit of the doubt) and outright falsehoods (more likely) with nary an action.

I'm slowly rousing myself to return here, though this will be fair and sole warning - I only respect the respectful. I only offer tolerance to the tolerant.

The reason we request links

rmrd0000 — Mon, 29 Feb 2016 19:37:55 +0000

In reply to Link please to verify you

The reason we request links is so that we can check credibility of the source as well as if the interpretation is valid. To put it bluntly, I don't trust your ability to analyze data. You deliberately hide your sources. In this case, you quote some named Zachary Carter who is a political reporter for HuffPost. Most would respond with "Who", if I quoted Zachary Carter.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrat-turnout-south-carolina_us_5...

Carter appeared on the Hugh Hewitt Show in the past. His responses to predicable questions from Hewitt does not make Carter seem to be a reliable source

http://www.hughhewitt.com/meet-young-journalists-series-huffington-posts...

Zachary Carter is a lightweight. Your arguments are often based on questionable sources and faulty interpretations. Zachary is worried. Boohoo. At the same time, we have the beginning of the death by a thousand cuts of Donald Trump. His good buddies Scarborough and Mika are abandoning ship. We are learning that the white supremacists love the Donald. The public will learn of his business failures and his abuse of the immigration system.

I hope Trump is the Republican nominee.I'm pumped because I'm a Democrat.

These are not the end times, except perhaps for the Grand Old Party.

Post more crap without links. The arguments will get knocked down like the crash test dummie conclusions they represent. The fact that you cannot take the small amount of time to include a link so we can go directly to your source is not only lazy, but confirms that you do not respect the other bloggers at Dag, in my opinion.