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Again, you constantly confuse

ocean-kat — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 22:34:17 +0000

In reply to Nice dodge . You managed to

Again, you constantly confuse opinion with fact. Given that you've apologized several times for your offensive and insulting posts your honesty and self awareness is questionable. Were you lying when you apologized or are you lying now?

I dont mind offensive and

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 21:25:18 +0000

In reply to Nice dodge . You managed to

I dont mind offensive and insulting if you'd add thought-out and insightful instead of deceitful and single-minded. Note that you spend most of your time saying ugly things about Clinton and deliberately diminishing anything she's ever done, while inflating whatever Sanders has touched. I dont think I've ever much insulted Sanders, only expressing I think he's out of touch with the majority of Democrats and less likely to persuade Republicans than Clinton. But as much as everyone here's pedantically explained her platform and history, you steadfastly act as if we'd said nothing and owe you yet another traipse through history. That in itself is the most insulting.

Nice dodge . You managed to

HSG — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:46:47 +0000

In reply to Nothing here ever upsets me.

Nice dodge . You managed to avoid the obvious fact that your posts and PP's are offensive and insulting while mine are not. I give you credit for linguistic gymnastics but none for honesty or self-awareness

Nothing here ever upsets me.

ocean-kat — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:26:12 +0000

In reply to Ocean-kat - you seem much

Nothing here ever upsets me. I've never met you, I'll probably never meet you, you'll never have any effect on my day to day life. I never get upset by something some stranger on the internet says. If I did I'd have to be upset 24 hours a day.

I simply enjoy mocking you for an extremely ridiculous post.

Ocean-kat - you seem much

HSG — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 19:05:55 +0000

In reply to I have no idea why Elizabeth

Ocean-kat - you seem much more upset by the fact that I ascribed to "cognitive dissonance" - which is not a psychological pathology - unwarranted attacks on Bernie by some Clinton supporters than I am by being called a "fool" by you and a "shit" by PP. How would you rank the three in terms of level of offensiveness?

I have no idea why Elizabeth

ocean-kat — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 17:56:30 +0000

In reply to I have no idea why Elizabeth

I have no idea why Elizabeth Warren hasn't endorsed Bernie

Likely Warren has some psychological pathology. We'll find out if she endorses Hillary since all Hillary supporters have some sort of mental illness. Perhaps you could take the time using your vast knowledge of psychology to explain exactly what psychological pathology stopped Warren from endorsing Sanders.

I have no idea why Elizabeth

HSG — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 16:47:18 +0000

In reply to Elizabeth Warren doesn't

I have no idea why Elizabeth Warren hasn't endorsed Bernie and it really doesn't matter. We have or had an opportunity in this election cycle to elect a transformative President (or at least one who truly wants to be transformative). But, it may be impossible for Bernie Sanders to do it without any help from at least one alternative power center. Warren could have chosen to provide that help. Sadly for us she did not.

As leader of the Civil Rights movement, Dr. King needed help to transform America. He got it of course from the grass-roots but also from alternative power bases, like Thurgood Marshall and the NAACP, and President Johnson.

[N.B. - in this context I define transformative as one who wrests wealth and power from the richest and most powerful Americans and redistributes it down such that decision-makers are beholden to the majority not a tiny but extraordinarily rich group of plutocrats.]

Elizabeth Warren doesn't

CVille Dem — Sat, 12 Mar 2016 16:35:10 +0000

In reply to Yes Michael we need inspiring

Elizabeth Warren doesn't strike me as a coward. Do you think it's possible that she didn't endorse Bernie because she doesn't agree that a revolution of the sort Bernie is counting on is going to happen, and that Hillary can actually get things done (including getting elected in the first place?)

True, she hasn't endorsed Clinton either, but since Warren and Sanders might be perceived as being ideologically closer, she may be holding back because she believes that Clinton is better suited for the job ahead. Or she may just want to wait until the nominee is certain. Either reason makes sense because once we have a nominee she can go full-bore for either one without having the distraction of having to explain away her former choice to every "journo" who wants to deflect away from her message.

Which is pretty much consistent with Ramona's point here.

Yes Michael we need inspiring

HSG — Mon, 07 Mar 2016 19:56:02 +0000

In reply to Isn't it interesting how we

Yes Michael we need inspiring Democratic leadership. One problem for Bernie is he just can't do it alone. If he'd had a staunch equally (or better) known ally standing with him like Elizabeth Warren, we might have seen much more excitement. One other problem (and I have no idea how big it is), there may be some diminution in turnout due to new more restrictive voter ID laws.

This is weird - in the year

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 04 Mar 2016 06:34:22 +0000

In reply to Isn't it interesting how we

This is weird - in the year of Bernie Sanders isn't inspiration by Dems the major theme? The other side is a carny and "core beliefs", adherence to the dogma for all candidates.