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Good to see ya Donal.

Richard Day — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 19:26:05 +0000

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Good to see ya Donal.

Missed you.

Here is an enlightening thingy about nihilism:

Thanks for posting, Donal!

Doctor Cleveland — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 16:55:34 +0000

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Thanks for posting, Donal!

"I liked the idea more in its

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 16:39:43 +0000

In reply to Hal, this was always going to

"I liked the idea more in its abstract form." - the Communists took away one family member's livestock except for a horse and a cow, I believe - just too much wealth aggregated. Another family member sold off half of his back yard (a bit smaller than a standard US lot) because they were going to take it all for being too big. It's all good fun until someone puts an eye out.

Hal, this was always going to

Oxy Mora — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 15:07:35 +0000

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Hal, this was always going to be a race between Bernie and Hillary and I don't think Biden would have gotten any more traction than Webb and Mallory. One factor has been the media's horse race ratings mentality, operational here and in the Republican's Trump phenomenon.

I was a lot more excited about single payer and breaking up banks before Bernie became the actual proponent and the primary process got underway, including the R's. You actually startled me with some of your rhetoric about taking things away from "privileged" people---I liked the idea more in its abstract form.

I think Trump will get the nomination and I think Clinton has the experience to adapt to his campaign more so than Bernie---it's mostly a gut feel..

The left's flirtation with

armchair guerrilla — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 14:49:09 +0000

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The left's flirtation with Biden has little to do with the VP himself, who was a terrible Presidential candidate twice and whose record is more conservative than Hillary (as a Senator from Delaware, he had little choice but to represent the banking/credit card industry). It's all about Clinton hatred. They never got over Bill's heresies and have re-imagined his presidency as a dystopian nightmare.

I wanted establishment-lite

HSG — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 14:15:18 +0000

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I wanted establishment-lite Biden in the race for two reasons in this order: 1) He would likely have taken more than enough votes from establishment-heavy Clinton for Bernie to win Iowa and NV easily. With 3 early wins and the much higher-profile accompanying them, Bernie would have been more than competitive in the southern states and best-positioned now to be the Democratic nominee. 2) Even if Bernie didn't win, perhaps Hillary would have been denied a majority going into the convention. This could have resulted in a number of interesting possibilities - several of which might not lead to Clinton being the nominee.

You're right of course that Biden isn't nearly as good as Sanders but he is significantly better than Clinton. All you need to do to come to this conclusion is to look at their recent earnings statements and recognize that Biden is far less likely to embroil us in destructive foreign military adventures.

If Joe Biden had run, she

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 13:40:23 +0000

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If Joe Biden had run, she would have kicked his ass in a New York minute. Biden was shit on the presidential trail. The only thing that would have happened is he would have lost his nice guy image and halo and looked as pathetic as Jeb Bush. And it's so weird that people who hate "establishment" candidates wanted Joe to show up - what the hell is he but establishment, and not particularly exciting. His big claim to fame is raising kids single, taking in lots of insurance contributions, and milking his grown son's early death for a presidential run soap opera. Maybe he did something as Vp besides going behind Harry Reid's back, but I don't know what it was.

Guys, they're saying it was

PeraclesPlease — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 13:29:53 +0000

In reply to Momoe, you certainly are a

Guys, they're saying it was over for *Hillary* since last July except maybe 2 weeks following her Benghazi hearing.

I'm not where the great hope is with LA, MS and MI coming up - expect delegates 2:1 for Hillary or net gain 70, putting her near halfway mark. Bernie got whacked in Open Primaries from Texas to Virginia - he did better in semi-private ones and caucuses - this weekend's may give him a few extra delegates. But even there, we're ignoring superdelegates - Hillary tied Bernie in Colorado counting them, as she did in New Hampshire. Talk about shifting superdelegates goes nowhere if Hillary takes the popular vote, which she did on Super Tuesday by 1,100,000 votes plus 180,000 advantage in South Carolina. Caucus counts are puny in comparison, but even there Hillary dominated Nevada taking Vegas/Clark County by 10 points.

It may not be over, but it's getting crisp.

As much as I would like to

HSG — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 12:52:46 +0000

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As much as I would like to believe Bernie is still competitive, the overwhelming margins Clinton is receiving in southern states make it near impossible for Bernie to catch up. Going forward, she is certain to win Florida by 25% or more and Ohio and PA look out of reach now too. She's racking up too many delegates in the states she wins for his narrower victories to keep him competitive - especially when you factor in the establishment (er super) delegates. One faint hope for Bernie - indictment. If it happens, let's hope it happens sooner rather than later. In retrospect, he should have made an issue of her email server setup and her dishonest insistence it complied with federal rules. There is much else that is extraordinarily frustrating about all of this - especially her supporters' insistence that her record shows her to be pro publica and the fact that if Joe Biden had run, Bernie probably would win this thing. That's why the establishment fought to keep him out.

Cenk is a joke. He dismisses

armchair guerrilla — Sat, 05 Mar 2016 12:38:46 +0000

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Cenk is a joke. He dismisses the votes of Southern Democrats and oddly asserts that Clinton "pivoted toward the right again" (WTF?) because she "can't help herself; she lives and breathes arrogance." Substantively, he's wrong. He points to critical upcoming contests in MI, FL, OH, IL, NC and MO in which he expects Sanders to gain ground. The most recent polling from all those states has Clinton comfortably ahead by double digits. I do think Sanders has "won," though, but for a different reason. He has succeeded in framing the issues in the campaign, has energized a constituency and at least rhetorically, pushed Clinton to the left. That was the main reason for his candidacy in the first place, and he's done far better than expected. We will see how far those carry through, if his supporters stay engaged, and if those prove helpful to electing the Democratic nominee in the Fall.