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I love this girl!

jollyroger — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 16:00:48 +0000

In reply to We should all drop acid

I love this girl!

BTW, can a anyone score decent acid these days?

http://dagblog.com/reader-blogs/theres-no-sunshine-now-hes-gone-9428

LOL.

tmccarthy0 — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 14:14:16 +0000

In reply to Dude, Im already in for a

LOL.

We should all drop acid

tmccarthy0 — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 14:11:33 +0000

In reply to BTW, TMac and PeraclesPlease

We should all drop acid together sometime.

And so we shall.

Dude, Im already in for a

PeraclesPlease — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 07:32:02 +0000

In reply to BTW, TMac and PeraclesPlease

Dude, Im already in for a whole sheet of blotter - how do you think Im holding it together? As 4 TMac, we're best buds for the duration of the election cycle - we'll find something to fight about by XMas, no worries. As for men in tights, Im just holding preconceptions to myself, or maybe suppressing my New Orleans days... NE wei, party on. The 70s are back!!! Meet Sir Real and his consort, Stache.

BTW, TMac and PeraclesPlease

Michael Maiello — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 01:21:15 +0000

In reply to !!!!!

BTW, TMac and PeraclesPlease -- thank you both. I know the two of you don't always get along, and I know that you both don't always agree with me, but I appreciate that you each iconoclastically support my more surreal tendencies.

We should all drop acid together sometime.

Absolutely, moat. But

Michael Maiello — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 01:19:20 +0000

In reply to Michael M,

Absolutely, moat. But wrestling isn't a competition, except when it is. It's scripted! It's a show! Yet the performers are always trying to do their best to look their best and get the top spot, so it's also a competition.

In pro wrestling, there are magical moments when the villain becomes a hero, but these are usually held near retirement or at least when a performer leaves the company, unlikely to return (Andre the Giant... Randy Savage... the last WWE years of Flair...)

Arguing on the internet, you will likely never see an opponent say "Damn, you're right, I'll rethink my life." This doesn't really happy in face to face political debates either. Which is kind of my point... If you're arguing online and you can't even hope to get to the result where your opponent admits to bad thinking and transforms to accept your point of view, then what are you doing?

To me, all you can hope to do is to make your own arguments and to hope that people find them persuasive. People will do likely be persuaded by you if your arguments are legitimately strong, if you seem to be arguing with a legitimate opponent, and if you are likable (even when being a jerk).

There is no ref and no three count, but look at how Hillary and Bernie have both come out better individually for taking the high road with each other during a debate with existential career implications for both. We don't need a fixed ending to fight right.

The level of fatalism in some

Michael Maiello — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 00:58:35 +0000

In reply to The level of fatalism in some

The level of fatalism in some threads bothers me as much as the snipping.

Me too.

What I try to remember, and something I give Bernie huge credit for, is that when you take the supporters out of it and just look at how Hillary and Bernie have conducted themselves and treated each other, well...

Pretty good. Pretty, pretty, pretty good.

For all the gloom and doom talk and all the worry that Trump is our next Mussolini and that the system has unraveled, I look at how Bernie and Hillary have acted towards each other, in a harder fought primary than maybe either expected, and I say, "I'm finally proud to say I'm in a political party." That's huge for me.

Michael M,

moat — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 00:48:43 +0000

In reply to Infinite Meta: How To Fight at Dagblog

Michael M,
The point you make about not needing to demonize the "opposition" to be persuasive is well made. That got me thinking of dagblog as a mat in a cage and wondering what any wrestler there/here could hope to gain from agreeing to struggle. Nobody here is going to suddenly fall off the mule and cry: Oh crap, everything I thought before is wrong! A person dressed in a gown or striped shirt is not going to stand over our paralyzed bodies and count to ten in a laborious fashion. The unlikelihood of anything that simple prompts me to promulgate the following:

Persuasion is less like a sports competition and more like a theft as the result of an inside job. Getting inside is very difficult.

The level of fatalism in some

Danny Cardwell — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:27:54 +0000

In reply to Infinite Meta: How To Fight at Dagblog

The level of fatalism in some threads bothers me as much as the snipping. This isn't the end of the progressive movement. I have a wrestling story I'll save for a later date!

Nicely done. I thought about

ocean-kat — Thu, 17 Mar 2016 05:14:21 +0000

In reply to You are so right, Ocean Kat.

Nicely done. I thought about adding something like this but I didn't think I could do a good convincing succinct summary. You did. thanks.